Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Logan Lynn


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. There is sufficent consensus from non-SPA accounts to close this AFD for a keep, otherwise there was no consensus for deletion anyways. JForget 22:53, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Logan Lynn

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Non-notable musician. Does not satisfy any relevant notability guideline (WP:GNG or WP:MUSIC). Bongo  matic  17:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Yes, wikipedia gets waaay too many non-notables bands and singers but this seems to get above the bar with reliable sourcing and generally well-written. -- Banj e  b oi   04:25, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Which source do you consider reliable that provided significant coverage?
 * New Now Next. Self-described blog. Not RS.
 * Willamette Week Online. Local interest paper. Reliable vis-a-vis facts, but not for notability purposes.
 * Google profiles. Self-published, not independent.
 * Own website. Self-published, not independent.
 * Just Out blog. Self-described blog. Not RS.
 * Just Out (potentially main site, not blog). Not RS.
 * Logo online. Not RS, not significant coverage.
 * Billboard. Directory entry only, not significant coverage.
 * Bongo  matic  04:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * New Now Next is from the LGBT cable channel LOGO from MTV. They are not only reliable this is an extended interview.
 * Willamette Week is the local LGBT newspaper, and the article is all about ... Lynn.
 * In addition here is a review from URB Magazine, a blurb in USA Today, Lynn featured and interviewed on MTV’s “NEWNOWNEXT” show on Logo, Concert review at Melophobe Magazine and a single review at Indie Rock Cafe Music Blog.
 * To me these suggest not only is this subject meet GNG but a good article can be written. For the record I would be more concerned if the article was peacocky or otherwise seemed bloated, but even that is simply a reason to clean-up.  -- Banj e  b oi   05:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Willamette Week is not a GLBT specific newspaper. Just clarifying. Danielquasar (talk) 06:35, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * KEEP. First of all, this TTony01 person seems to be a ruthless, arrogant individual who goes around labeling pieces of information as "fluff" when he absolutely has no basis for doing so. His actions and words have made me infuriated. You don't go nominating someone for deletion when there are more than a dozen notable sources on the person cited already, and when they've already had music video play on a major cable channel! His album will be in stores everywhere on November 3rd! The story of Logan's grandmother tutoring Johnny Cash came straight from him and his mom Debby, but apparently the citing of two Cash-related books aren't enough to satisfy these fuss buckets. Uh, hello..last time I checked, literature was a reliable source! I will return the full explanation of LaVanda Mae Fielder's lessons with Cash at a later date if I can get Logan to put a complete mention on it on his official site or elsewhere. Otherwise, the man is just TOO notable by now to throw away an article for. KEEP! KEEP! KEEP!!.User_talk:XxSoulSurvivorxX 07:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC) — XXSoulSurvivorXx (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Please dial it down a bit. We go by verifiability. If you have content and reliable sources to improve the article please do so. Whatever the motivations to nominate this article are doesn't matter. We're discussing if it should stay and hopefully the best decision serving our readers is made. -- Banj e  b oi   23:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Particularly since I did not nominate the article for deletion and have not even provided an opinion. BTW - the comments in the article about Cash might be good in an article about Lynn's mother, but I am not so sure it adds encyclopedic value to Lynn's article. ttonyb1  (talk) 23:37, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment, likely the three album articles should be merged here. -- Banj e  b oi   23:28, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by merging it? Make them into one article, or include them on the main article instead? I made them separate so it would look and feel like other well made band articles. Danielquasar (talk) 05:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * They were split off pre-maturely. An album article should only be if teh album itself is considered notable as verified by multiple reliable sources. I would insteda merge them back and very briefly mention each one. For our readers that's enough -- Banj e  b oi   01:20, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * KEEP. Looks like the more promotional language has been deleted, as requested. This artist is VERY RELEVANT and the page is written in a 100% credible, truthful, and factual manner. I highly recommend keeping this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.193.40.138 (talk) 17:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC) —  66.193.40.138 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * KEEP. I added a couple of missing references.  Hope that helps!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PDXProlific (talk • contribs) 18:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)  — PDXProlific (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  23:01, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

Relister's Comment': This AFD was relisted despite 5 keep votes so to have more discussion/comments from non possible SPA accounts. JForget 23:01, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Delete. Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:BAND. Warrior 4321  23:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Comment - The Dandy Warhols are a HUGE band who just put out Logan Lynn's new record on their label this week.  The video for Logan's new single premiered NATIONWIDE on MTV's Logo Network last night 9/6/09.  This is the 3rd single which has aired on the channel since 2007 and his last video was picked up by Time/Warner ON DEMAND for the month of October '08, was picked by MTV as #8 in Logo's "Top 10 Videos of the year for 2008) here: http://www.logoonline.com/video/logan-lynn/259577/feed-me-to-the-wolves.jhtml?id=1600444 and he filmed a 1-hour hosting interview episode of the show "NewNowNext" in 2008/2009 here: http://www.logoonline.com/video/misc/274255/logan-lynn-on-newnownext-music.jhtml?id=1594234.  "The Deli Magazine" just reviewed "From Pillar To Post" last week and called it "the best album, electronic or otherwise, to have been released out of Portland this entire year." here:http://www.thedelimagazine.com/portland/index.php?name=delirious-audio&itemId=221825&mode=comments#post  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PDXProlific (talk • contribs) 16:16, 7 September 2009 (UTC)  — PDXProlific (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep Comment Deleting this article now would be a terrible and foolish waste of time, given how notable Logan clearly is at this point to Wiki guidelines. If an abortion happens, we will just be starting over from scratch two months from now when his album hits stores everywhere. From Pillar to Post is available digitally now via his website for purchase, and will be in stores on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 (a revision from my last post; the date has been moved up from November 3rd). His previous videos, along with the new release "Write It On My Left Arm", have been airing on Logo for the last two years. I seriouly doubt any of you would have contested the inclusion of A Fine Frenzy or Corinne Bailey Rae on Wiki when both were up-and-coming artists (just like Logan) three years ago on VH1's "You Oughta Know" playlists. Logo, a sister channel to VH1, has "NewNowNext" which is the exact same thing as "You Oughta Know". I think instead of hastily deciding to delete this article, we should be encouraging others to recommend what facts should be cited more/better/clearer, and if the writing tone needs adjustment. Also, there are many more important missing pieces of info I need to provide, including how Logan began working with Carlos Cortes. XxSoulSurvivorxX (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep. I believe the article should be kept. I have been working on the article as well and I believe it falls under the guidelines that it needs to fall under. He has been recognized by multiple reliable sources, which have been noted on the article itself. From local papers to a national cable channel and even reliable internet sites and reviews. He recently has even been included as the featured artist for ads run by sonicbids.com. Would adding something like that make him more notible then he already is at this moment? I don't see what is wrong with the article. If you can, please clarify what about it is not within guidelines. danielquasar (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 21:40, 7 September 2009 (UTC).
 * Keep MTV says she is notable, so she is. Otherwise they wouldn't bother interviewing her and showing her videos.   D r e a m Focus  14:45, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Who is "she"? In case you haven't noticed, Logan is clearly male. XxSoulSurvivorxX (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * And the reason we should use MTV's standard of notability instead of our own is...? - Biruitorul Talk 01:06, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above..--Judo112 (talk) 16:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Per what? The fact that she? was on MTV? The article does not pass WP:GNG or WP:BAND. Please see WP:PERNOMINATOR as well. warrior  4321  17:02, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Per what the other keep sayers has pointed out already.. which i agree on.--Judo112 (talk) 17:13, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well all i can say is that it seems like most people dont agree with you andthat the article indeed passes WP:GNG, you need to read WP:Assume good faith.--Judo112 (talk) 17:16, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * "What" have the other editors pointed out already?
 * Are you talking about this:
 * Or this :?
 * One is talking about another person, and the other has been working on the article, and does not want their article to be deleted. Please provide a reason for deletion by yourself. warrior  4321  17:21, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * "Who" does not agree with me? Are you talking about these users :   . All of those users have made no contributions outside of Logan Lynn. So, who exactly does not agree with me? Three single purpose accounts, someone who worked on the article and does not want it to be deleted, or someone who has the wrong person in mind?  warrior  4321  17:25, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The article is well-written and all sources indicate notability in one way or another... Even one source would have been enough for establishing the minimum of fame/notability for a singer. You dont have to be extremely famous like Britney Spears etc etc.. to be worthy of your own Wikipedia article.--Judo112 (talk) 17:43, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Are any of those sources reliable? warrior  4321  18:12, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * And the fact that she has released a number of studio albums talks for itself....--Judo112 (talk) 17:44, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Logan is a male? Who exactly is she? warrior  4321  18:12, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Dont blame me for someone elses mishap... i know that she is a he:)--Judo112 (talk) 19:40, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

KEEP - well-written and sourced article already exists. Keep it. #REDIRECT Target page name —Preceding unsigned comment added by Astanhope (talk • contribs)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.