Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loganair Flight 670


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. North America1000 00:47, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Loganair Flight 670

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Non-notable, WP:GNG, etc., etc. Petebutt (talk) 13:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep A plane crash with fatalities is notable.Iloveplanes2003 (talk) 14:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete cargo aircraft crashes are not normally notable. MilborneOne (talk) 16:56, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:37, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete an aircraft crash with fatalities is not automatically notable and the amount of coverage of this crash in secondary sources does not make WP's notability threshold. This crash is covered adequately (actually more thoroughly) in the Loganair article. YSSYguy (talk) 02:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep A hull destroyed with fatalities and more than enough solid reference's. Plus a valuable lesson about how to protect aircraft engines in winter storm conditions. Samf4u (talk) 22:28, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Many cargo flight accidents have their own articles. Please see this partial list. — Preceding undated comment added 01:11, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * That list has no relevance to this discussion. Some aircraft crashes are notable, some are not. Some crashes of light aircraft are deemed notable, some crashes of Boeing 747s and the like are deemed not notable. This is a non-notable crash, because of the lack of coverage; the secondary sources in the article consist of a news report and an air-crash database listing. The other reference is the accident report, a primary source; such reports are made for every aircraft crash. YSSYguy (talk) 07:00, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I respect your opinion but beg to differ. Any aircraft that is destroyed in the line of duty with fatalities IS notable. This is not a car crash w/some moron behind the wheel. These are highly trained individuals flying state of the art aircraft. It's our duty to present these incidents for others to learn from. BTW, a quick search found these additional references. Cheers, your charming and delightful host, Samf4u (talk) 02:50, 8 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment An encyclopedias limit should have no bounds. If a person searches for this incident I'd like to have our article be listed first, with its proper references. Samf4u (talk)  00:56, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment which is why it should be added to List of fatal accidents to commercial cargo aircraft which would enable searchers to find a properly referenced summary, it doesnt need a stand-alone article. MilborneOne (talk) 09:36, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Significant additions have been made to this article since this AfD was proposed, including information regarding changes to the operation of Short 360 aircraft in freezing temperatures. This crash led to these changes. Also, the article contains too much information to be on a list. Samf4u (talk) 19:29, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep The information and articles I found on the internet is enough to give this article a keep!--Scantunl (talk) 00:52, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * There is also this article in The Herald on the report into the crash. Davewild (talk) 18:33, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.