Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lois Thompson Bartholomew


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:13, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Lois Thompson Bartholomew

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The fact that this article has survived since 2005 only sourced to the author's own website is a sad commentary on our lack of monitoring articles. It may also indicate it is too involved of a process to nominate articles for deletion. I looked for additional sources. I got one or two reviews of her novel, but in places that review basically every young adult novel that gets published, so not something that would show the novel is notable and clearly not enough to show Bartholomew is a notable writer. Beyond that I found works by Bartholomew, such as the poem in the Friend and an article in Meridian Magazine co-authored with her huband. Here (http://www.ldsliving.com/search/author_search?q=Lois+Thompson+Bartholomew) is a listing of her four articles in Meridian Magazine. This is not the stuff notability is made of. This passing one-line mention in an amazingly exhaustive history of Walnut Grove, Minnesota (https://books.google.com/books?id=KBNVAwAAQBAJ&pg=RA1-PA1993&lpg=RA1-PA1993&dq=Lois+Thompson+Bartholomew&source=bl&ots=nBXAcETim8&sig=ACfU3U1StEL0gTWMEdnxFuPJOVmMPX3ZPQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjt1NuM0ffjAhWWUs0KHZ-jBi44ChDoATAGegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=Lois%20Thompson%20Bartholomew&f=false) notes that she lived there for a few years. It's telling that to even get to a third review of her novel I have to dig all the way until I find this blog post from the artly named Forgotten stories blog that gives her work as an example of pseudo-fantasy. Bartholomew is just not notable. John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:14, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete the lack of eyes on this article is appalling, especially given the utter lack of notability assertations and sources. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:58, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I have found 5 reviews of her novel (in Booklist, School Library Journal, Book Report, Kirkus and Publishers Weekly), but as it's only one novel not several, it would be more likely to make the book notable, rather than her. I'm not suggesting that the novel is notable, though - even apart from any considerations of how much reviews in those journals contribute to notability, they say things like "the novel ultimately falls flat. Both the main and supporting characters as well as their relationships to one another remain cursorily developed. The unmasking of several characters' true identities at the end of the novel consequently delivers little suspense or resonance for readers"; "The conclusion is somewhat disappointing because it is so open ended"; and "there is little to hook readers into making an emotional investment. Without a history of the kingdom, the plot is pretty thin. Tasha's father sounds more like a really nice rich guy than a king, and his abdication sounds more like a lark than the grave act that it was. Another jarring note is the death of young Gil. The situation doesn't fit the rest of the story and seems gratuitous. The author's note asserts that this is not a fantasy but places the kingdom of Comnor alongside Narnia and Prydain. It is a fantasy, but certainly not on the same map as either of those realms." As for WP:GNG or WP:BASIC, there is just not enough: in Newspapers.com I only found birth notices, a book reading, and an article she had written about botulism. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:14, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. ORPHAN, likely fan/vanity created by SPA from the early days of WP. Agree with premise of nom and would point out further that the current fervor for creating articles that counter bias and such is basically serving to generate articles like this far faster than they can be policed/deleted. Agricola44 (talk) 14:03, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Did we have that problem back in 2005 when this article was created? Probably. That was when we thought every candidate for US house was notable among some other unwise inclusion criteria. I have found several articles in Category:1924 births that are sourced only to IMDb. Some may have more sources findable though.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NAUTHOR....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


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