Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lolo Heimuli


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 14:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Lolo Heimuli

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Doesn't meet WP:NKICK Nswix (talk) 16:37, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Martial arts and New Zealand. Nswix (talk) 16:37, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex (talk) 16:38, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Boxing and Oceania.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:08, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 16:32, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I havnt participated in these for a while so excuse me if i buggar this up. I believe it bearly meets WP:GNG and the coach has made sagnificant contributions to the Kickboxing, MMA and Boxing Communities in New Zealand, Tonga and Australia. However the article itself is extremely outdated and needs a really good facelift. --Bennyaha (talk) 20:31, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Side note I did create this article but I just don't have the time to upkeep this particular article or update it currently. Bennyaha (talk) 20:31, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: - plenty of references, clearly passes WP:GNG, so WP:NKICK is irrelevant.--IdiotSavant (talk) 01:04, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment All the references are in the list of students he's coached. There are plenty of coaches I could find with notable students that doesn't make them notable. Nswix (talk) 01:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. Fails GNG. is a trivial quote by Heimuli, ❌.  is entirely primary interview content, ❌.  is non-independent non-RS from a kickboxing school, ❌.  has two sentences on him, with the rest being either quotes or on one of his fighters, ❌.  is non-RS that doesn't even mention him, ❌.  is almost pure interview material in local media promoting his gym (the end literally gives the gym's address and his contact info), ❌.  is non-independent, ❌.  and  are deadlinks, but from the refss are likely non-independent content from a sports body, ❌.  doesn't mention him, ❌.  I can't access, but seems to be an announcement in local media, .  is his name in a list, ❌.  is some trivial quotes by him, ❌.  is a trivial mention, ❌.  is a trivial mention in a quote, ❌.  is dead, but from the citation is not independent, ❌.  is a passing mention, ❌.  is a trivial mention in a quote, ❌.  ditto, ❌.  is a trivial mention in a photo caption, ❌.  is dead, but is likely routine fight coverage of someone other than Lollo, ❌.  has basically no direct independent coverage, ❌.  is the best of the lot, but is heavily reliant on quotes and primary content, ❌.  is nothing, ❌.  is a trivial mention, ❌.  is entirely quotes from Heimuli, ❌.  contains an ok amount of independent coverage, but appears to be from a defunct website with no evidence of reliability (no About Us or contact info), ❌.  is entirely quotes by him save for one sentence, ❌. JoelleJay (talk) 20:51, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete He's clearly has had some success as both a fighter and coach, but not enough to meet any SNG. I looked at most of the article's references and I agree with JoelleJay's assessment of the sources.  I'm not seeing significant independent coverage of him that meets WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 21:31, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Promotional BLP with no SIGCOV from Ind RS addressing the subject directly and indepth. JoelleJay source assessment is accurate, keep voters above give provide no sources, just statements, no BEFORE. BLP article require clear and accurate sourcing for notability and content, this has neither.  // Timothy :: talk  14:24, 13 March 2023 (UTC)


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