Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London Buses route 452


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The result was redirect to List of bus routes in London. Tone 20:25, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

London Buses route 452

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No refs. Fails WP:GNG. Should be deleted by WP:BUSOUTCOMES. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 20:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 20:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 20:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete and redirect to List of bus routes in London. Absolutely nothing notable about this route. Ajf773 (talk) 21:31, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to List of bus routes in London per WP:BUSOUTCOMES. Fairly obviously not notable. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 22:49, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect per above. No evidence of standalone encyclopedic notability. -- Kinu t/c 04:10, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note It is discussed in detail in this book.Pontificalibus 08:17, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think that changes anything because in any case this would still fail WP:GNG due to there not being multiple sources. Even so, the term "452" is mentioned a total of 5 times in the 160 page book, with about only 5/6 paragraphs on the topic. Not to mention, the book also goes in depth into a lot of other Bus Routes which are not notable. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 17:02, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of bus routes in London --Devokewater</b> @  20:50, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy close and revert back to this edit. WP:IAR. Quite clear this should have been done rather than taken to AfD. <b style="color: black">Night</b><b style="color: black">fury</b> 09:45, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Well there has been some edit warring. I mean this article was reverted back to a redirect at one point. I though it would be a good idea to just get consensus on this article and if it should be retained. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 17:58, 22 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep The 452 is notable because it was the only new bus route introduced in connection with extending the Congestion Charge zone westwards, and it was not withdrawn when the western CC extension was withdrawn. I have added some references. The introduction of a new bus route for the CC extension is significant for plans to introduce congestion charging in other cities. Winstonsmith99 (talk) 00:11, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Two of your sources are blog entries, we cannot accept these as appropriate sourcing. <b style="color: black">Night</b><b style="color: black">fury</b> 09:21, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of bus routes in London. Not notable enough per WP:GNG for standalone article. Additional sourced information could be included in other relevant articles. ~  Araratic  &#124; talk  05:18, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


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