Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London Buses route 5


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Tone 22:39, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

London Buses route 5

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No evidence of notability, twice created on top of a redirect. If the AfD decision is delete, probably needs to be protected as a redirect. Ymblanter (talk) 11:58, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Ymblanter (talk) 11:58, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Ymblanter (talk) 11:58, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Gleeanon409 (talk) 21:09, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep No evidence that the nominator has followed WP:BEFORE per WP:NEXIST. This is a historic London bus route which was serviced by the famous Routemaster and there is plenty written about their routes.  I can look up that up when I have access to the relevant books but, for now, here's an example of recent coverage about a controversial route change. Andrew D. (talk) 14:37, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I find that Route 5 is notable. Sources exist and if an article can have endless AfDs, perhaps it should be allowed a few recreations. we may find a new WP:LOCALCONSENSUS Lightburst (talk) 15:43, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy redirect to List of bus routes in London. The article has been attempted to be recreated dozens of times since the first redirect back way back in 2010. As it stands, there is still zero evidence of notability. It should only be kept if users can demonstrate it can sufficiently qualify at AfC level. Ajf773 (talk) 00:46, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, uncited text issues addressed. 11Expo (talk) 02:13, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of bus routes in London. I fail to see anything notable about this route. Lacks significant coverage. It is not in touristy central London. Many, many routes derived from trolleybus routes when they decided it was cheaper to poison us with diesel fumes. Routemaster buses were everywhere back in the day so that is nothing special. In short nothing of encyclopaedic interest.Charles (talk) 18:58, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Looking...found Bus route 5 to Romford Market under review to serve Queen's Hospital, The 11 busiest London bus routes where you'll be hard pressed to find a seat, Proposed bus route changes for Coventry, Driver in hospital after bus crashes into lamppost on Barking Road, There's a guy in the German embassy trying to travel on every London bus route before he leaves town.
 * The quality of those sources are nothing special. Many of them are local coverage. One is a trivial mention. One mentions Coventry, an entirely different city. One mentions a bus crash, not a claim to fame for any route. Ajf773 (talk) 20:49, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep What's with the focus on UK bus routes here? As I stated elsewhere, these should be an WP:IAR keep, unless a specific rule on bus routes has a low notability threshold. --Doug Mehus T · C  18:36, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * What reason is there to ignore all rules??Charles (talk) 21:24, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , didn't think we need one, per WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY, but I would say part sentimental attachment and part users go to Wikipedia for transit route histories (at least I do, and I suspect I'm not alone). I know that may not be what Wikipedia is, but I don't get the need to delete these either. How many London bus routes are there? Is it possible to expand the London Buses article by including a brief paragraph or two on each article? Doug Mehus T · C  21:41, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think we need to do that. Just have route articles for only the minority of London Buses routes that are actually notable. Ajf773 (talk) 22:04, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


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