Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Long Bay Symphony Orchestra


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:24, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Long Bay Symphony Orchestra

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no sources, no indication of why this orchestra is notable Dlabtot (talk) 08:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC) Speedy Keep. Clearly is notable per the guidelines at WP:Music. To the nominator, please take the time to do some internet searches for sources before nominating an article at AFD. A two minute search would have made it apparent that this article should never have been nominated for deletion.4meter4 (talk) 20:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. A professional symphony orchestra with more than 600 hits in Google News archives.  Here is an article about their 23rd season, just commenced. --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:56, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —Arxiloxos (talk) 18:32, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Carolina-related deletion discussions.  —Arxiloxos (talk) 18:32, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been notified to WikiProject Classical music. Voceditenore (talk) 19:26, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Simply asserting that they are notable is rather pointless. Why don't you try demonstrating that notability instead? What are the sources that indicate notability? Dlabtot (talk) 01:25, 9 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment No speedy keep please. Let the AFD discussion continue. Yes, the local newspaper in Myrtle Beach  has lots of substantial coverage of the local symphony over a period of many years, and maybe the local TV station or some website about the town has coverage. This is comparable to what we see in articles about some college musical group in the college paper, but it is argued strongly that such solely local coverage in the college venue is not evidence of notability. Should we require more independent coverage from media not so tied in to promoting local cultural efforts? Perhaps lots of coverage in local media just shows local importance, and only justifies a mention in the article about the locality. Edison (talk) 20:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Why is a professional symphony orchestra with a serious concert season considered non-notable?  This is a waste of other editors' time. Opus33 (talk) 00:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * We have a notability criteria: WP:MUSIC. Being "a professional symphony orchestra with a serious concert season" is not part of it. Can you point to: "multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable"? Or any of the other critieria?  If not, please stop "wasting other editor's time" with baseless and unsupported assertions of notability. Dlabtot (talk) 01:25, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Instead of hectoring people with these demands to point to multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable, why not follow the links in the first reply to your nomination, which lead to those very sources? Phil Bridger (talk) 00:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep – A professional orchestra with a history of regular seasons; sufficient newspaper coverage. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:56, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep as above - established orchestra and clearly notable. Eusebeus (talk) 10:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.