Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Long Dong Silver (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Nja 247 19:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Long Dong Silver
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Article with persistent BLP problems which have recently been attempted solved by redirecting the article to Clarence Thomas Supreme Court nomination. This, however, becomes very non-sequiturial in my opinion and I am therefore nominating article for deletion instead. __meco (talk) 08:02, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
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 * Keep - per the already included source and others - such as the Australian Sex Party (yes folks, a real political party in Australia) regarding another scandal about who the lady is with Long Dong Silver in photos from Colour Climax magazine, a Danish adult magazine in 1982, edition number 120. Such as this source from the Eros Association (Australia's national adult retail and entertainment association). Such as this source from the Dallas Voice mentioning how it was proven his long dong was a fake. Indeed, he's notable and Wikipedia readers should know about him, as should the Bureau of Weights and Measures according to Time magazine. - ℅ &#10032; ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 08:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I just want to point out that every single link you are referring to is a joke and not valid for a biography of a living person. A passing reference from Time?  (And I do mean a passing reference which has NO relationship to the article)  A spam advertisement for a penis extension product?  A sex blog?  COME ON.  JBsupreme (talk) 16:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Mind pointing out where you see a spam advertisement for a penis extension product? If you'll look at the bottom of that source, it specifically says, This article appeared in the Dallas Voice print edition September 14, 2007. It wasn't spam but was written by a reliable source, aka news paper. And also where do you see a sex blog? Everone of the sources I have provided are either news media, representative association or political party. None of them are a "joke". They are reliable sources and they all speak to the notability of Long Dong Silver.- ℅ &#10032; ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 22:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete just another huge WP:BLP disaster on Wikipedia which needs to be irradicated. JBsupreme (talk) 09:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Per discussions in first AfD and address any BLP issues identified. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Clarence Thomas Supreme Court nomination. Current article is almost totally OR and filled with gems such as Long Dong Silver is believed to be dead. At his prime of film-making, he was considered to have the largest penis of any man on Earth, but no official measurement was ever taken. Gahhhh. There's almost no RS-based information on this guy anywhere, other than several mentions of him (in passing) during the Clarence and Anita show. Even the IMDB and IAFD don't have much, and they don't even agree which films in which he appeared: neither include the film Sex Freaks as per the article, and the only film they both list is Beauty and the Beast (not the Disney one!) The sources Allstarecho cites are not all they seem to be: The first one is a political party's site, and doesn't address LDS except in passing; the second is simply a repost of the first; the third is just a passing reference; and the last is also a passing reference (and not meant to be taken at all seriously). IRT Delicious Carbuncle, the article has not improved since the last AFD; in fact, it's worse, with even more unreferenced junk. The only thing referenced is that he was mentioned during the Clarence and Anita show, and that's why I suggest a redirect there instead of outright deletion. If sombody can find *reliable sources* which deal *with the subject* I might be persuaded otherwise, but there's nothing here that is verifiable and notable.  Horologium  (talk) 16:46, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep This subject has sufficient reliablly sourced information for a stand-alone article. I demonstrated in the first AFD that WP:N is easily satisfied, to wit: 'Verified by its discussion in reference to the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings. CNN's "Bill Press: The return of Long Dong Silver"(2001) says that Anita Hill testified that Thomas harassed female workers in part by describing porn videos he had watched "including the now-famous 'Long Dong Silver.'" If CNN says it is famous, that goes a long way toward establishing notability. Google News archive has many other articles discussing the film. See Google News archive , particularly Pioneer Press (St. Paul Pioneer Press, Dec. 28, 1991, page 10B "Who's in, who's out on the In list:... Long Dong Silver") . Washington Post  called Silver "a well known performer."  Rocky Mountain News  says Silver was well known even before the Thomas hearings. Time magazine(1998)  called Silver "a household name." ' Edison (talk) 23:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I added some refs to the article, from books and newspapers. Edison (talk) 00:38, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I've heard of this dude and its not really my scene. Also ALLST☆R & Delicious seem to have tight standards on notability, so if its good enough for them... FeydHuxtable (talk) 11:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep  The proposed redirect is unfair and worse than any other possible way of handling the article. The present version seems wholly satisfactory. If additional verified information about his film career can be obtained, it could be added. DGG (talk) 20:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.