Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. keep rationales refer to potential notability, which is insufficient Fritzpoll (talk) 19:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup

 * ( [ delete] ) – (View AfD) (View log)

Not notable except as a new edition of Loose Change (film); possible inappropriate title for technical reasons — NRen2k5 (TALK), 02:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Slashes, as far as I can tell, are acceptable in article titles (e.g. Nip/Tuck). Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 02:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment While setting the AfD procedure in motion I saw some indications that the article was being listed as “11: An American Coup” rather than the correct “Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup”. — NRen2k5 (TALK), 03:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh. I fixed it for you, no idea why it messed up. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 04:17, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I’m pretty sure by the way it messed up that the forward slash is the immediate cause. Exactly why, I don’t know. — NRen2k5 (TALK), 08:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think this article should be deleted; it's an entirely new film - budget, celebrity involvement, and distribution. This films budget is 3.5m as opposed to the 2,000 in the first two. It deserves its own article. — 68.116.136.15

I think this ongoing discussion is also relevant here. — NRen2k5 (TALK), 01:16, 16 May 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete It's a new film? which has not become notable? Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Once notability is verifiable via reliable third party sources, we can then have an article. The article is currently referenced off press releases.  Dloh  cierekim  02:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And per lankivel. Thanks, I'd not thought of NFF. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  14:00, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete (nominated). Not notable beyond its association with the original Loose Change film, especially at this point in time. — NRen2k5 (TALK), 03:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, perhaps fails WP:NFF, and definitely fails WP:CRYSTAL. Come back when the film is released, if anyone notices.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 05:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC).
 * Keep, this is of sufficient interest - the previous version drew 100,000 viewers a day on the Internet, so this has the potential to become a massive blockbuster, given the amount of money they are spending on it compared to previous versions. Furthermore, links to future films are often listed on Wikipedia, and this one even has a confirmed release date. So keep. It's particularly relevant, Wikipedia being an online facility, and this film being so popular among the online community Tris2000 (talk) 14:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Interest is not notability, though I dare say that has not been demonstrated. And just because there are other future-film articles on Wikipedia does not mean we should have this one. It has not shown to be notable via reliable 3rd party sources unconnected w/ the subject. Potential is not the same as notable. If it lives up to this potential, then perhaps it will then be notable. Cheers, [[User:Dlohcierekim| Dloh  cierekim  15:14, 21 May 2009 (UTC).
 * Just because something’s done with other subjects doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s acceptable. It could be unacceptable and someone just got away with it. — NRen2k5 (TALK), 20:14, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep, It's a film with a budget surpassing most documentaries; it has celerity endorsement and worldwide distribution (unlike the previous films). Keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.169.115.6 (talk • contribs)    Dloh  cierekim  01:29, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you show verifiable information from reliable sources supporting the the notability of the subject? Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  01:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don’t quite understand the comparison between the cost of Loose Change AC and that of documentaries. — NRen2k5 (TALK), 07:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.