Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loose Logic (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. Spartaz Humbug! 20:17, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Loose Logic
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Previously a no consensus keep at AFD in 2009, still unsourced, and I could find no coverage in reliable sources other than a single local newspaper article. Does not appear to be notable. Michig (talk) 14:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete I couldn't find substantial coverage either, and as far as I can tell the awards he won aren't major enough to ensure notability. r ʨ anaɢ (talk) 14:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —• Gene93k (talk) 20:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Article is not given any significant coverage in any third party reliable sources, therefore fails WP:GNG. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. After reference searching on my part, I didn't find anything either. SwisterTwister (talk) 06:29, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. No significant coverage by third parties, no reliable sources found. Non-notable per WP:GNG. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 (Contact) 21:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - There seems to be a landslide of delete votes, but I'm gonna go all empiricist on y'all before I draw any conclusions. For starters, here's A PIECE IN THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER, which is a huge mainstream newspaper akin to the LA Times... So we can't say "no reliable sources," for starters... Carrite (talk) 17:43, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * This one is paywalled, but it's a story from the REDLANDS DAILY FACTS, another mainstream news source, archived by High Beam. Carrite (talk) 17:45, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * And here is yet another piece from a newspaper, this from THE DAILY PILOT. Hmmm, what's the Daily Pilot, you ask? That's the daily newspaper in Costa Mesa, California. That's already 3 pieces from reliable sources in a few minutes. How did I find them? I searched the exact phrase "Ian Westbrook" + rap in regular old Google.
 * And here's an INTERVIEW WITH LOOSE LOGIC, again from the OC Register. Carrite (talk) 17:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * There are lots of blog pieces as well, like THIS ONE that provides more clues for a serious biography: "The rapper has graced the cover of Orange County’s What’s Up magazine, and has been featured in the Orange County Register, OC Weekly, Huntington Beach Gazette, Skinnie magazine, and more, including being named a “Top 100 Unsigned Artist” for 2007 by Music Connection magazine." Carrite (talk) 17:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per the above. I am stopping because of time rather than hitting the end of the material. It's a pretty clear call on this, actually. Notable per GNG on the basis of multiple, independent, substantial, reliable published sources. Carrite (talk) 17:55, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The Redlands Daily Facts article is the one I identified in the nom. The OC Register articles look good as potential sources (they are well hidden when I perform the same Google search, and don't appear at all in a Google News search), so while I still have a concern about the coverage being limited to local sources, I would now be happy for this to be kept. I would withdraw the nom, but for the other opinions in favour of deleting here. I have also found this from URB.com, should that help to sway others.--Michig (talk) 18:05, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 03:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete he fails WP:NM and WP:GNG due to no significant coverage. Sources provided fail WP:NTEMP. Pentadecimal (talk) 12:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - Mentioned in various local newspapers, though not cited. As of now fails WP:GNG criterion. 08OceanBeach S.D.  22:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, appears to meet WP:GNG. In addition to Carrite's sources (nice work, BTW), there's also this review of one of his albums in URB (magazine). -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 21:12, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, didn't see that Michig had already cited it. Still, the point stands. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 21:14, 21 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: article is now fully sourced, frankly I don't see this artist as notable, simply a product of the internet that has received some local coverage, but it looks like this will be kept so it might as well be sourced. BTW I removed the info about his 2007 awards, if someone can find a reliable source for them feel free to put them back. J04n(talk page) 12:46, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
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