Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lord Edward


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The result was delete. Euryalus (talk) 08:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Lord Edward

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We discovered in RfD where Lord Ed and Lord Eddie are being discussed that this is the only disambig page in existence for Lord Name which suggests strongly we don't need this Neelix creation. There are already Lord and Edward pages. Legacypac (talk) 04:22, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions.  Musa  Talk  04:33, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Convert to redirect to Edward Lord, as a reversed order name, such as is found in registries, where surnames appear first -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 07:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. At EN:WP we don't do Eastern name order. It would in any case have to be Lord, Edward. Russian WP does it that way, e.g ru:Путин, Владимир Владимирович (Vladimir Putin). Hungarian WP does, but that's the usual form for Hungarian names. Si Trew (talk) 13:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * One of the Edward Lords, Edward Clemens Lord was a missionary to China, where it is normal to have surnames first and given names last. So we can also just target Edward Clemens Lord; though many registers do not use a comma, and some instead just UPPERCASE the surname without a comma to separate it from the given name, so it does appear without commas. (like in a phone book) -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 *  Keep Delete - What's the deletion rationale other than WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST? If there are multiple people known commonly as just "Lord Edward", this seems a sensible dab. Definitely disagree with the above re: name reversals, though, except in non-standard cases (this does not look to be one of those cases). &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 16:53, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * can you show anyone is known as Lord Edward? Because if you just type Lord Edward into Wikipedia's search box or Google you are given a list of choices. This DAB page actually makes it harder to find what you want because you get it instead of choosing from the search results.  Legacypac (talk) 20:29, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Update: Hmm. In my head I was hearing "Lord Edward" as a common way to talk about a lord along the lines of other "[title] + [given name]" combinations like King George and Maester Aemon. Upon further investigation I'm finding that it, in fact, does not look terribly common to do so, making this seem more non-standard than I previously thought. Switched to delete. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 22:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought the same at first, but Queen Elizabeth II does not really have a last name or location, while a Lord is better identified as Lord Location or Lord Family Name then by Lord Given Name.Legacypac (talk) 23:04, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I think how they are identified depends on what kind of lord they are. See Lord. Si Trew (talk) 13:08, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete: this page is worse than useless - it lists 5 Lord Edwards; there are 9 who turn up in the drop-down search box if you type "Lord Edward", and a look from search on "Lord Edward" finds [Special:PrefixIndex/Lord_Edward this lot], which includes quite a few redirects to people whose article title is not "Lord...". Not a useful dab page; I'm not sure that it woud be a useful redirect to "Edward Lord" as we don't routinely provide redirects from every "surname forename" pair and it would stop readers from getting to the search box. Pam  D  20:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note that we don't have redirects at Lord George, Lord John, Lord Cyril, though we have articles or dab pages at George Lord, John Lord, and Cyril Lord ("This is luxury you can afford..." for UK TV watchers of a certain age!") (Or was in on Radio Luxemburg?). Pam  D  20:45, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Telly. here. (Must get this book, the first two volumes are very good. Maybe my Christmas prezzie. Although it seems to have a typo "jungle" right there... perhaps I wait for 2nd edition.) Si Trew (talk) 13:15, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete, do not redirect - the Lord Edward is a pub which is supposedly the oldest seafood restaurant in Dublin, which may make it notable for an article. Without regard to that, every entry on this page fails WP:NAMELIST, there are no people known in full as "Lord Edward" nor do there appear to be any geopolitical areas known as Edward which are ruled by a lord, and per  we don't do reversed name order unless it would be a plausible search, and this one isn't. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:08, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as useless per above (and maybe per WP:REDLINK per Ivanvector.) Steel1943  (talk) 14:20, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


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