Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lordship of Nanteuil


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:29, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Lordship of Nanteuil

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This article is a poorly written OR made from amalgamated sources with little or no connections with each others and none specifically centered on the subject. It seems very little can be safegarded. It contains obvious factual inaccuracies, misinterpreted citations that do not verify the text and previously unpublished synthesis of published material that conveys ideas not attributable to the original sources. Phso2 (talk) 11:27, 19 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete, because the article is hoax.--Yopie (talk) 11:46, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 16:17, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 16:17, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete: WP:TNT as inaccurate and untrustworthy. All Creator's edits, and particularly article creations, are suspect. Creator has been blocked on |11 wikipedia sites so far, including this one. In the case of this article, the source does not say that Roger was Seigneur. The deed that the source quotes from is here, and by my gtranslated reading suggests that Roger was actually a Benedictine.  This source suggests that Thibaud (rather than Raoul per the linked source) was first Seigneur, but that's neither here nor there. The pattern appears to be that where there isn't outright WP:HOAXing there's inaccurate WP:OR, WP:SYNTH, and/or WP:COPYVIO (in the case of this article, per User_talk:Alec_Smithson, the article was allegedly translated with additions from another wikipedia but user has not added the translated template as requested. I say "allegedly" because "Signoria de Nanteuil" or anything similar does not appear to have ever been on the Italian one).  undefinedHydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)  10:35, 21 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete without prejudice to re-creation with properly sourced encyclopaedic content. TNT is the best approach here. This is a typical Alec Smithson fabrication, a concoction of fact, fantasy and wishful thinking assembled with the aim of establishing that the Sicilian Natoli family were related to the French Nanteuil family. Editor time is a precious resource; we shouldn't waste any on trying to sift the few grains of wheat from all the chaff here.
 * General note: unfortunately this only one of many articles by this user. I'm slowly working through them, and keeping an informal record here. Any help would be welcome. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:32, 22 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete -- There might be something to rescue as history of Nanteuil, in or associated with the place that was the caput of the lordship. However Seigneur is not a title of nobility, so that we could only keep it as the history of the place.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:16, 24 January 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.