Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lorenzo Scott


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Speculation over people's motives and the possibility of the subject becoming notable next year aside, along with the rather poor nomination statement, the only arguments that have been advanced here are in favour of deletion. HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   17:24, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Lorenzo Scott

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Non-notable minor league baseball player who is currently a free-agent. Though he played briefly in 2011, Wikipedia is Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and reasonable judgement would suggest that he will likely never reach the major leagues considering his age and minor league performance last season. In addition, being a low-level minor league All-Star doesn't necessarily mean he is notable, either. Alex (talk) 20:57, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 21:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 21:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * "Though he played briefly in 2011, Wikipedia is Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and reasonable judgement would suggest that he will likely never reach the major leagues considering his age and minor league performance last season." is a statement that contradicts itself. If Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, then why are you in the very same breath predicting that the player in question won't make the majors? -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 14:20, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for noticing that. Such a terrible understanding of policy surely belongs at the RfC. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:45, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm coming around to the belief that we should create a List of active minor league free agents in baseball or something similar, as a temporary holding tank into which articles like this one could be temporarily merged until we know with which organization the players in question will sign this offseason, and then depopulate the list of any players who haven't signed by the start of the minor league season. Waiting until the offseason to nominate articles on active players for deletion, as Alex is doing, is simply gaming the system. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 14:20, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I haven't looked into this specific article, but if the player wasnt notable to being with, it shouldn't have been incubated in another article only to have to be moved again when he becomes a free agent. This is an example of a problem that is related to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball/Archive 28.—Bagumba (talk) 16:38, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't be a terrible idea, but I feel like the page would fill up way too much.-- Giants27 ( T  |  C )  19:57, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Procedural keep As the nominator's rationale is completely contradictory. You try to tell us what WP:CRYSTAL is, and then proceed to whip out a crystal ball of your own. Anyone that knows these guidelines are free to nominate again later.  Agent Vodello OK, Let's Party, Darling! 19:55, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * 'Note to closing admin: Each editor who has posted so far has extreme, unrelenting and potentially unhealthy issues with myself as an editor and is likely making and basing their opinions about this AfD on the person who started it, myself, rather than on the actual, intrinsic and inherent worthiness of the article. Please take this into consideration when making your final decision. Alex (talk) 00:31, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I kindly ask editors to discuss the article and avoid personal comments here. Personal concerns, if any, are better handled at other venues such as user talk pages, Requests for comment/User conduct or Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.—Bagumba (talk) 01:09, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If you don't mind, can you please clarify exactly which "extreme, unrelenting and potentially unhealthy issues" you believe that I have with you? -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 23:11, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Borderline I don't know, while technically he might have a little bit of notability, all the article is is a list of who he played for... not sure that establishes an article that should be kept. I guess I would vote delete. Go Phightins! (talk) 03:01, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, v/r - TP 03:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Nomination statement aside, Scott really is not notable. Based on what I can find, he fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT.-- Giants27 ( T  |  C )  19:57, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:CRYSTAL is about articles. There's no prohibition against speculation in AFDs and I am sure that the closing admin will be able to determine the proper weight to give it. Matchups 03:14, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete despite the nominator's reason and comments in this discussion, the subject of the article in question is not notable. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:25, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete same reasons as others.--Yankees10 01:56, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.