Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lorenzo de Arrau


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The result was keep.  Sandstein  20:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Lorenzo de Arrau

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Completely unsourced, Google shows mostly copies of this page. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:52, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 05:45, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - much of this can be sourced - e.g. . What's holding me off from a straight WP:NOTGENEALOGY !vote is that he authored a work - Arrau, Lorenzo de: Reconocimiento de las Plazas, Pertrechos y herramientas que se hallan en la frontera de este Reyno. Concepción, 10 de abril de 1769 which is still referenced by modern writers. This is not presently in the article and may pass WP:NBOOK (and our subject might pass NAUTHOR) - but this require familiarity with Chilean sources that is beyond my purview (i.e. this may be an obscure travel log, or something that is beyond obscure). Icewhiz (talk) 05:56, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment -- the content we have at present is mere genealogy, but I suspect that there is more to his career, so that I am inclined to keep but tag for expansion. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Dunno He is mentioned in a number of books about the founders/early settlers in Chile:     For example, the 2nd hit in that gBooks search Los Defensores del Rey, reads "Recuérdase en Chillán a doña Cruz Arrau y Santa María, hija de don Lorenzo de Arrau, oriundo de Cataluña, dueño de la gran estancia de Cato, y de doña Isabel de Santa María Escobedo. En la defensa de la ciudad realista colaboró ..."  sourced, that is, to his daughter's recollections of him.  Another descendant, Claudio Arrau, liked to boast of/write about this ancestor.  So we do have a  WP:NOTGENEALOGY problem.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:22, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Chilling (talk) 12:50, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Has his entry in the Diccionari dels catalans d'Amèrica, where he is described as military engineer. Genium. 00:56, Jul 24, 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Genium. 11:30, Jul 24, 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. Does appear to be of reasonable significance in Spanish military history. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:01, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems notable enough. Although the article needs expansion work with RS cites. Kierzek (talk) 17:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. For his activities in the Spanish Army he passes notability. Nikoo.Amini (talk) 15:33, 26 July 2019 (UTC)


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