Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loretta Tortelli


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 00:25, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Loretta Tortelli

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A minor character in the show without sources to assert notability therefore it should be deleted. Dwanyewest (talk) 06:44, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:45, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:46, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Sources are not required in articles to "assert notability" - there is no policy to that effect. If the nominator wants some more sources then he should add them himself.  He might then understand the topic better.  In this case the character was not only a recurring character in Cheers but also had a starring role in a separate show,  The Tortellis.  This is documented in detail in sources such as The American Family on Television. Warden (talk) 17:05, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Warden is correct that the sources need not be reflected in the wp article, for purposes of withstanding an AfD.  The key question is whether RS sourcing that is both substantial and independent exists.  Here, we have articles such as this one, devoted to the subject of the article.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:07, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Added to the article, (from User:Epeefleche's comment above):
 * — Northamerica1000 (talk) 15:45, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Added:
 * — Northamerica1000 (talk) 15:48, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * — Northamerica1000 (talk) 15:48, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Per the availability of reliable sources that address the topic significantly. Topic passes WP:GNG. Northamerica1000 (talk) 15:50, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Based on the coverage found by those who actually went to look for it.  D r e a m Focus  21:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
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