Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lori Shemek, PhD


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 23:11, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Lori Shemek, PhD

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Unremarkable author of weight-loss book. The sources are weak, at best, for "an internationally known health and weight loss expert". Appears to fail WP:GNG. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 06:17, 14 December 2012 (UTC) Delicious carbuncle (talk) 06:17, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your input on this and adjustments are already in process. I've added another media source and will locate others.  Bobchoat (talk) 07:21, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It would be better if any of these media appearances were reliable sources for anything other than the fact that she appeared on them. The best claim at notability - that she is a best-selling author - is still unsourced. A source confirming sales figures and which best-seller lists it was on would count for more than another entry in a list of media outlets that realized they could save money if they laid off their expensive news staff and ran infomercials on their morning shows. Kilopi (talk) 11:30, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't get where you believe she was doing infomercials. These are talk shows, not infomercials.  And the same with the recommendation from The Huffington Post using her as a source.  How about her being quoted in regarding her expertise, would that count? Bobchoat (talk) 14:22, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Bob, do you mind if I ask if you are connected to the subject of this biography in some way? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:36, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I know they're not called infomercials, but I'm alleging that they might not be much more better than infomercials in terms of reliability. She may have been invited to do interviews on the basis of her media-friendliness, accepted on the condition that the hosts plug her book, without much effort invested in fact-checking the biography her publicist sent over. That's not a huge problem right now since they're only being used as primary sources for the uncontroversial fact that she was there. I was just worried and wanted to warn you in advance that the other media sources you alluded to might not cut it if used as a secondary source for something more meaningful and notability-inducing like the fact that she is a best-selling author. Kilopi (talk) 16:39, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Being quoted is a source by the person, not a source about the person. What are needed for a biographical article on Wikipedia are multiple published works, by independent people with good reputations for fact checking and accuracy, that document the subject's life and works in depth.  You can make a good argument for keeping by simply pointing to some.  Sources!  Sources!  Sources!  Uncle G (talk) 19:55, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: Sorry, have to go with the nom here. I'm afraid a single self-published book doesn't cut it. I encourage a resubmission once the bibliography is better established.  Oh No! It's Faustus37!  it is what it is - speak at the tone 07:29, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:SPAM, WP:BLP, WP:UPANDCOMING, WP:CRYSTAL, and WP:MILL. This is a very ordinary person -- there are myriads of PhDs, and thousands of health books published every year.  Posting the degree in the title is a clear sign the article is likely to be crap. 19:16, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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