Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lori Williams (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 22:11, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Lori Williams (musician)

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Not notable. Autobiographical article, created after several previous attempts by an editor who has made no other contributions to Wikipedia. References in current version are: 1: a profile in a county-wide newspaper; 2: from the non-notable (well, not represented in Wikipedia, anyway) organisation she has founded; 3: from her own record label; 4: her daughter's blog; 5: an entry in a list of donors, which verifies her as an alumna but nothing more; 6: a dead link; 7: a listing as one of the acts on a jazz cruise ("We're excited to have the jazzy soul duo of BOB BALDWIN & LORI WILLIAMS on this year's cruise!", nothing more). Nothing demonstrating notability: the first item from Fairfax Times might go part way (can't read it as it's blocked in Europe) but everything else is non-independent or trivial. She seems to have published several albums on her own record label, and won various awards as an excellent teacher, but this doesn't seem to satisfy WP:NMUSIC or WP:GNG. Pam D  20:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Pam  D  20:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:AUTOBIO, WP:NOTRESUME, WP:TNT, and lack of WP:SIGCOV. We are not a free webhost or social media site for posting one's resume, we are a charity governed by fiduciary and other rules. Based on the user name of the creator, that it's a SPA, and the personal details in those edits, we must conclude this is an autobiography, for which we strictly construe the rules on notability. When Wikipedia was first started, such behavior could be excused, but it's 2019 and there's now no excuse. This article is very poorly formatted and has zero independent sources except for one local newspaper article, making a total re-write necessary. However, just to be fair I conducted several online searches. I found very little about this person. The burden is on the editor/subject/fans to prove they are notable based on WP:42. The subject, with all due apologies, seems to be a run of the mill and non-notable musician. Bearian (talk) 21:07, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Echoing what Bearian said. Furthermore autobiographies aren’t necessarily wrong but advised against. If she had SIGCOV in independent secondary sources that qualify per GNG then yes no problem she could write her own autobiography but again if she had true notability she wouldn’t need to do so herself. Fails WP:ANYBIO & WP:SINGER.Celestina007 (talk) 11:53 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - because it looks like a resume to me, and have nothing reliable to prove notability. -- Captain Assassin!  «T ♦ C ♦ G» 08:40, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - You know there is little to write about when the article tries to fill up space with the names and birth dates of all her relatives. Note that she has a rather robust media profile here:, but it appears to be her first serious notice as a solo performer, and most of her other media mentions are in connection with people she backed up in the past. Beyond that one European profile and the local newspaper write-up found by the nominator, nothing else beyond the typical gig announcements and streaming sites can be found. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 00:15, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Strong delete If we do not cut out and remove autobiographies we are going to develove into Linkedin.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:46, 30 November 2019 (UTC)


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