Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lorian Hemingway


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The result was   keep. --MCB (talk) 06:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Lorian Hemingway

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I noticed today that an anonymous IP had removed the claim to notability on this article--specifically, that the subject (the granddaughter of Ernest Hemingway) was a Pulitzer Prize-nominated author. Upon doing some digging of my own, it seems that this edit was correct and she was not a finalist in the nomination process and is thus not officially a nominee. (Information on the related work can be found here.)

More digging, including standard Google searches and looking through the news archives, revealed a lack of significant coverage--the most prominent mention I could find of her was here, when she is quoted in an article about her late father. Given this lack of coverage and absence of other verifiable claims to notability, I am not convinced that the subject satisfies the notability guidelines for biographies and creative professionals, and so I am nominating it for deletion. jonny - m t  05:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep per | January Magazine Article and | Article which sources the prize nomination statement. Jasynnash2 (talk) 10:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, notability is not inherited from the grandfather, and there just isn't enough out there to convinve me she is notable on her own. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 22:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Has plenty of coverage at Google News that confers notability. Much of it is about her eponymous prize, which maybe should have its own article, but it does include several reviews of her her work. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The thing is, though, that I looked through those as well. Most of the articles on the first page of search results are only passing mentions (see    etc.); while I'm kind of on the fence about whether the prize is notable, I'm not sure that the reviews are enough to pass the notability guidelines for creative professionals.  Naturally, you're more than welcome to disagree, but I just wanted to note here that the news results were considered before I nominated the article. -- jonny - m  t  03:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, makes false claim of being a Pulitzer nominee. All the citations you can find on the Web are merely repeats of press releases sent out by the author herself. Yes, she seems to be a granddaughter of the great author, but that's it. No reason to think the prize is notable, either. Also, note that the January Magazine article was written by her publicist!
 * Comment. Of course for any subject that gets 237 Google News hits you'll find plenty that are only passing mentions, but after discarding those there are are still loads left which give substantial coverage, and are certainly not written by her publicist, in publications such as The Washington Post, Time , The New York Times , The Dallas Morning News , The San Diego Union-Tribune , The Orange County Register and The Spokesman-Review .  I've also found some book coverage of her  . I agree that having a famous grandfather doesn't make her notable, but it also doesn't mean that we should impose higher notability standards on her than on other writers. A Pulitzer prize nomination isn't needed to make a writer notable. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Phil Bridger's comments. It now seems clear that the author and her books have been the subject of multiple independent articles in prominent, reliable sources. Klundarr (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


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