Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Los Angeles Live Steamers


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The result was   no consensus, defaulting to keep'. I'm seeing solid policy-based arguments all around. -- jonny - m t  07:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Los Angeles Live Steamers

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 * Queried speedy delete Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions.   --  brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 16:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete/Transwiki possible transwiki to Wikitravel but doesnt seem suitable for an encyclopedia. -- neon white talk 17:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We can't transwiki anything to Wikitravel; it uses a different copyright license . --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep at the moment books and news results aren't looking promising but I found a couple of museum articles in the ghits that might help establish notability. Will try to work on it this week. Otherwise, request userfication (in case I forget). TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 19:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Doesn't seem to be notable, IMHO. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 23:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge this appears to be just one part of a nationwide organization of Steamer clubs and their museums. While none appear to be independently notable, it's more likely that they'd make up part of a larger whole. Unfortunately I will not have time to work on this before the AfD's close. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 16:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Should it survive AfD, the article should be moved to Los Angeles Live Steamers Railroad Museum as the organization itself is not notable, but the Museum - through its connection with Walt Disney and his much-notable Carolwood Pacific Railroad - is. Keep B.Wind (talk) 01:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, maybe rename and redirect. ("LALS" is the well-known acronym among railfans.) One of the most notable Live Steam facilities in the US, known the world over. It is not "one part of a nationwide organization of Steamer clubs" - it's an entity of its own. Special notability due to the Disney exhibit - see Walt Disney's Carolwood Barn. --Janke | Talk 09:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - lack of significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject. PhilKnight (talk) 01:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


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