Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lost Heaven


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The result was delete. I considered the delete and redirect option, but Martin Illa's uncontested salient point tips the scale. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Lost Heaven

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I could not find any sources for the actual city within the game, as opposed to the game itself. The name is suitably vague that I'm not sure it would even work as a redirect. The article is pure plot summary that fails WP:NOTPLOT. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 20:36, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 06:55, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 06:55, 13 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete I'm not sure any non-primary, non-promotional reliable sources even exist for this after a search. SportingFlyer  talk  06:57, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * delete - Although a gamespot article exists. I don't think the town that this game is set in is particularly notable. A good note, is that one of the more famous cities for this purpose - Liberty City from GTA - can't establish notability.  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 08:45, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Mafia (video game). This is just WP:GAMECRUFT. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 08:54, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Dissident93. After all, the full title of Mafia is Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven, so the redirect makes sense and if another notable subject comes along that is called "Lost Heaven", we can always reuse the name then. Regards SoWhy 10:04, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - SoWhy makes a very good case for redirect, but the high probability of there emerging a more notable subject called Lost Heaven (it's hardly a distinctive title) makes me uneasy. In my experience, when an article already exists in one place, even as a redirect, article creators tend to use disambiguation for the new article rather than go to the trouble of moving the existing article.--Martin IIIa (talk) 14:35, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


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