Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lou Rell


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The result was   redirect to Jodi Rell. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 23:16, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Lou Rell

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No independent notability; is the spouse of a sitting governor. Fails first point of Notability (people).  Horologium  (talk) 19:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Connecticut-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete This much content can easily be included in Jodi Rell's article if we have to although I think it's not necessary. The governor's husband does not have independent notability. --Polaron | Talk 23:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to his wife's article; if I remember rightly, this is standard practice for non-notable spouses of notable people. Nyttend (talk) 23:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: While I would not object to the deletion or redirection of this article, I do have one question: Why does something such as the navbox Current U.S. First Spouses exist if articles on first spouses are generally considered inappropriate? About half of the states currently have articles for first spouses and, while some of these spouses are notable in their own right, many (like Lou Rell) are not particularly notable. Several have short biographical articles longer than Lou Rell's, yet are probably lacking anything substantial in the notability department. My opinion is that unless it is completely appropriate for all 50 first spouses to have their own articles, a navbox promoting the names of a multitude of non-notable people should probably be the next thing on the chopping block. --Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 05:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I had been looking at that navbox (which was what prompted my deletion attempts, whether through speedy deletion or AFD). There are a total of 23 articles on state First Ladies/First Gentleman (and four redirects). There are about ten that are of limited notability, and about that many that are clearly notable (mostly judges, but also notable beauty pageant winners and journalists). I wanted to see how the AFDs played out before addressing the template, but if most of the articles I target are redirected or deleted, then it might be appropriate to nuke the navbox.  Horologium  (talk) 10:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete In answer to Sergeant Blue's question, anyone can create a navbox. In my first year here, I had assumed that it was a sign of approval for the creation and continued existence of articles of a particular genre, but there's a template that one can use to make these, and they can be edited just like anything else.  It's not uncommon for people to set about to do a project like "Let's have an article for each of the first ladies and first husbands in the United States" and to have lots of blue and red links in a box, but there's no pre-approval required for a project, and,  conversely, no guarantee of existence.  Mandsford 13:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the governor's article. Lou Rell himself is not independently notable. IMO each of these "first spouses" has to be considered on a case-by-case basis - not all included or all deleted, but the evidence considered as to whether they are or are not notable. As far as the navbox, I think it is harmless and a useful tool - even though many of the people listed are redlinks or redirects. I would say to keep it regardless of the outcome of these discussions. --MelanieN (talk) 01:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
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