Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loud Machine


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete - articles are at userspace. JForget 02:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Loud Machine

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The band fails WP:NMUSIC. The article has been tagged for seven months as being unreferenced and I have tried unsuccessfully to find reliable sources for the band. Aspects (talk) 23:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:06, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

This good enough?
       

See those? ALL of them mention or are about Loud Machine. They sell on iTunes, have a record label and have hard copy CDs. They sell internationally, you know, out of country? I'm not trying to be mean about all this but I have proven numerous times of this stuff and the article has had several references when it was created, if they are gone, that is someone else's doing. ZydrateSupporter (talk) 08:32, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * (Comment) None of those references are reliable sources, see WP:RS. I see no evidence you have "proven numeours times of this stuff" and the article did not have any references until you added some on January 20, but iTunes is not a reliable source.  What part of WP:NMUSIC do you think the band passes? Aspects (talk) 21:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete No, those references do not provide the non-trivial coverage from independent reliable sources that are required to indicate notability. The first four (bands website, twitter, facebook and myspace pages) are not independent of the subject. The other are gig listings (ie trivial mentions), a radio station and a trivial local news mention about a small gig. I can't find any references from reliable sources that would qualify this band for an article, so can only recommend delete. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 19:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin. If this article is deleted, these articles are about the bands albums etc and are probably speedyable:- Spanner EP Leaving LA Life On the Line Sister Sister (song) Life On the Line (song) Feel My Soul (Loud Machine song) Follow Me (Loud Machine song) Template:Loud Machine.
 * Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 19:58, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - no coverage in reliable sources. The websites listeed here in the AFD are not reliable sources independent of the subject and as such, do not establish notability. -- Whpq (talk) 21:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Understanding...
Again, please don't take this as a complaint or anything as I do respect you guys for doing your job.

I will be on the job for a while, finding sources that match to the standards. I will be checking websites from all over my country (Canada), the US and other countries to find better sources. I ask for your patience and allowing me to do so, while keeping the article and all related articles on Wikipedia for another month. If I fail to come up with any of these within the next 30 days, you can delete the articles as planned.

That is all I ask of you at this time and being granted this would be highly appreciated it. Also, if you want to feel free to help me, as honestly, the rules of how a band is eligible do not make full sense to me. I know they have won awards in the Prince Edward Island music scene.

Again any help is appreciated and I will be searching for better sources.

ZydrateSupporter (talk) 12:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Reply - A deletion discussion normally runs for 7 days after the nomination, and you and any other editor can improve that article during that time. For this article, it would be the addition of reliable sources.  This would be things such as significant profiles and articles about the band in newspapers and magazines.  As an alternative, you may want to request userfication of the article.  That would place it as a sub-page of your user page and allow you to develop the article further.


 * Note that from what I can see claimed int he article, they are local band that have found some local success and may be well on their way to greater things in the future. When they achieve that, the coverage in magazines and newspapers will be there to establish them as a notable band. It's just that right now, they don't seem to have quite cleared that hurdle.  Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 14:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Reply to Whpq - Thank you for that information. I see you have seen that I have added some better sources. I know they have went out of province numerous times but cannot find any articles linking to that. I will also request the userfication as well, so I do not lose all the time and effort I have put into the articles.

Thanks again and sorry for any trouble or any annoyance I may have caused you. -- ZydrateSupporter (talk) 19:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Note to Admin: ZydrateSupporter has moved the article into his user space prior to the close of the AFD. -- Whpq (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  01:29, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
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