Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loudest band in the world


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep, after Uncle G's edits. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 14:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Loudest band in the world

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Page has no reason to exist. Records can be looked up elsewhere. Aboutblank 07:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete POV based trivia. While claimed by The Who], numerous sources say manowar holds this title per Guiness.  Wikipedia is not for trivia. Resolute 07:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete can't confirm W/Guinness site, as Resolute stated, others do claim this (remember This Is Spinal Tap? ;) SkierRMH, 08:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete trivia that contradicts verifiable records. More importantly, Wikipedia policy states that Wikipedia is not Guiness. Doczilla 08:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Anyhow I thought the loudest band was "Disaster Area". Note that the article refers to loudness in "deciples". Sam Blacketer 10:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * With the changes in the article since my !vote, I change my !vote to keep. Sam Blacketer 19:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - unsourced trivia. MER-C 10:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not trivia and it's sourced. "Contradicting verifiable records" is a cause to correct an article, not delete it.  Keep. Uncle G 17:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Unca G, I usually don't diagree with you, but the references in this article are total hearsay based junk written by notoriously techno-illiterate music writers. Not one is an actual document showing how this ranking was determined based on any scientific or engineering standards. Tubezone 17:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Turn the Delete knob up to 11, (or maybe should be renamed to alleged loudest bands in the world?) Would only apply to bands that actually drag around their own sound equipment, anyway, which hasn't been common for years... (why pay roadies when you can just mic into the house system?) Otherwise you're just measuring the loudness of the venue. Then there's the lack of sound measurement parameters... 129.5 db at what distance? Weighted or not? Counting crowd noise? Indoor or outdoor? The article mentions "32 meters from the speakers"...but there's scads of speakers. engineering analysis of the compact discs on which their albums are published As in how, average level, what? All CD's have a certain maximum level, beyond that it's just digital clipping garbage, they don't work like tape recorders. Sounds like Ashare is being taken in by press release technobabble, which, BTW, he didn't bother to verify as valid. You're right, Doczilla, WP ain't Guinness... you can't even trade WP for a Guinness, unfortunately and sadly, which brings the value of the whole concept of WP into question, if you ask me.. Tubezone 17:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Well sourced, not trivia, as Uncle G has pointed out.--HisSpaceResearch 19:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral/Keep - I am still not convinced that this is not trivia, but the Uncle G's edits have radically altered this article such that it no longer resembles that which I voted on initially. Keep only because, IMO, the rewrite would necessitate a new AfD without !votes based on previous versions. Resolute 20:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Really sort of an essay on the "goodness of loudness" is my take on it, the claims made are based on pretty poor research, IMHO. Apparently someone did measure the Manowar concert, but I don't see (a) how the numbers were taken, or (b)  that comparable measurements of other bands were made. Also, since bands don't normally carry their own sound re-enforcement gear these days, Manowar is sort of winning a one-band race. Tubezone 21:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep per Uncle G. -Toptomcat 01:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - A quick Google confirms that the title "loudest band in the world" is claimed by a few different bands. We shouldn't write an article that declares "Bob's Banjo Brigade is the loudest band in the world. End of story." But what we can do is outline a few of the different claims that have been made over the years. Quack 688 06:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep well sourced. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 06:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sourced by what? Tubezone 07:13, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Newspapers, books, and magazines? -Toptomcat 12:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Well-referenced and non-trivial. If there are concerns about biases and whatnot, they should be added to the article (see Best-selling music artist for an example).  —ShadowHalo 03:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * keep the reasons given for nomination are not valid. That information can be found elsewhere is no criterion for WP, since,, between it and V, and OR, it would eliminate every single article."Page has no reason to exit" is meaningless, for it can be asserted of anything. It has reason to exist if it contains verifiable notable information, regardless of whether one finds the topic interesting.DGG 03:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Silly subject, but well-sourced and mildly notable. Sandstein 22:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Since when has "Records can be looked up elsewhere." been a reason not to have a Wikipedia article on a subject. Lumos3 23:56, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Stupid and is impossible to keep up. There are many more bands that exist in the world than the ones Guiness knows about. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CJ King (talk • contribs) 04:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC).


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.