Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louis-Édouard Glackmeyer


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is for keep. (non-admin closure)  Onel 5969  TT me 00:02, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Louis-Édouard Glackmeyer

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Minimally sourced and minimally substanced biography of a person notable only as a city councillor. As always, city councillors do not get an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL just because they existed -- to qualify for an article, they need to either (a) serve in an externally-recognized global city, which Quebec City is not, or (b) be referenceable to a depth and range and volume of coverage that marks them out as much more notable than most other city councillors, by virtue of being able to write some genuine substance about their political significance: specific things they did in the job, specific effects they had on the development of the city, and on and so forth. But this goes no further than stating that he existed, and cites just one source to verify the fact, which is not what it takes. Obviously no prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can do better than this — the fact that the one source is the Dictionary of Canadian Biography, which doesn't include people lightly, does suggest that a genuine claim of special notability may be possible here, but it still takes more than just one source, and it still takes some genuine substance above and beyond just saying he was a city councillor, the end. Bearcat (talk) 17:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 17:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 17:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep While the one reference does NOT prove notability, the content of the reference suggests the person could/does meet WP:NPOL Most of the google hits come back in French and the person also has a stubby article at https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-%C3%89douard_Glackemeyer This looks like an article about a notable person that just needs to be improved. Jeepday (talk) 15:09, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete he was a city counselor, that is not enough for notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Not by itself. That's when we should look around for sources! gidonb (talk) 01:55, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:49, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment The French wiki article only says he was president of the Quebec Chamber of Notaries, which I assume is the version of the provincial bar association at the time he was alive. Not sure if that increases his notability. He seems to have been a long-time member of the bar association administration and worked as a justice of the peace. Rather voluminous historical papers from this archive: https://archivescanada.accesstomemory.ca/edward-glackmeyer, not sure if that pushes him over the top for notability. He was the first president of the Societe St Jean Baptiste in Charlesbourg, http://pscb.ca/app/uploads/2020/01/D%C3%A9pliant-cimeti%C3%A8re_vf.pdf Oaktree b (talk) 14:55, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I almost feel as if I'm working to establish notability and rewrite his article. Volunteering to do so if needed. Neither for nor against deletion at this point. If we think he's notable, I'll update. Oaktree b (talk) 15:06, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oaktree b I'm with you. You shouldn’t have. Some people, not necessarily here, seem to have made deletion of articles into a hobby. gidonb (talk) 17:11, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Meets the WP:GNG per references (just expanded by 100%) and WP:NEXIST. gidonb (talk) 01:48, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It still takes more than just two footnotes to get a person over WP:GNG, especially if the second footnote is just being used to support the names of his parents rather than any substantive content about his career. As I said, the notability test for city councillors requires substantive information about their work to establish its importance, not just the ability to verify that they existed as city councillors. Bearcat (talk) 14:47, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If I was trying to keep the council member under the professional standard, all this would be very relevant. However, I'm suggesting to keep under the WP:GNG and WP:NEXIST. WP:NPOL is a high bar for council members although definitely not unheard of in large cities. gidonb (talk) 01:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:ANYBIO. Has entries in the Dictionary of Canadian Biography and The Canadian Encyclopedia . AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 04:13, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources uncovered by . The first (in French), in particular, looks as if it could be used to greatly expand the current stub. Espresso Addict (talk) 12:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. A somewhat similar AfD is ungoing for Chris Arlman. gidonb (talk) 15:21, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, mainly per Aleatory's sources, now clearly meets ANYBIO, more coverage in French is likely Eddie891 Talk Work 16:33, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


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