Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louis Bennett II


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The result was Delete; consensus, including comments made after relist, is to delete.--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 17:56, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Louis Bennett II

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PROD removed by article creator with no reason given. Fails WP:GNG (no significant coverage) and WP:NFOOTBALL (has never played in a fully-professional league). GiantSnowman 16:12, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 16:12, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete, not notable. Kierzek (talk) 17:01, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 07:06, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete; fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG. -  Yellow Dingo &#160; (talk)  23:37, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - He has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:47, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep this - He has not played in a fully pro league but he will play this year, player will register to Anorthosis Famagusta. ChrisAnorthosis (talk) 15:47, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 03:38, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * This is a bit of an interesting relist. The one keep !vote is a WP:CRYSTAL argument and the four delete !votes (5 if including nom) are based on accepted guidelines. I know I participated in this debate so this might seem biased but I'm just being truthful. I think there is consensus to delete and I am wondering why you choose to relist?-  Yellow Dingo &#160; (talk)  04:07, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I relisted because the last comment differed from all of the prior comments and no one had responded saying why the last comment's view was incorrect. If his view had something useful, I did not want to prematurely cut off debate.  MBisanz  talk 11:20, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * But you only had to read it to see it was pure speculation (i.e. he "will" play). Essentially it is just someone claiming that a player will be notable in the future. No one need respond to that because it is pure WP:CRYSTAL. Fenix down (talk) 11:38, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I have to agree that this is obvious CRYSTAL in my eyes. -  Yellow Dingo &#160; (talk)  13:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  Yellow Dingo &#160; (talk)  04:07, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment - I agree with that this is a very interesting relist. Every delete !vote was based in long-established guidelines, and the only keep !vote is pure WP:CRYSTAL. If an uninvolved admin reviews this, I would hope they can see that and close despite the relist. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 04:54, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 04:57, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment - I agree too, this is a bad relist, there is clear consensus that the individual does not meet any subject specific guideline, nor GNG. Fenix down (talk) 06:57, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - I cant see any reason anymore for delete, the player made his debut with Anorthosis the previews week. ChrisAnorthosis (talk) 15:47, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - I presume by debut you mean this match. Firstly, I cannot see his name mentioned in article, he certainly wasn't in the starting line up provided at the bottom as far as I can see. More importantly, Soccerway is quite clear that this was a friednly match. WP:FOOTYN requires players to have made appearances in fully professional leagues or cup competitions or other competitive matches involving two teams from fully professional leagues. This appearance does not satisfy the subject specific guideline and clearly is nowhere near enough to satisfy GNG. The earliest this player can be thought of as notable by any standard is the 19th August, if he plays, when Anorthosis play APOEL. Fenix down (talk) 13:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


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