Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Love: Destiny


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. I would suggest that a merger discussion may be appropriate. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:24, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Love: Destiny

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A non-charting, non-major release such as this is not notable per WP:NALBUMS --  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  [talk]  22:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Don't get confused with Ayumi Hamasaki's single Love (Destiny): the difference is between the colons and the parentheses. --みんな空の下 (トーク &#124; I wanna chAngE!) 04:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmm well... I'm sure the destiny's child EP will be deleted as its not notable. However Ayumi's single is notable and it should be titled Love: Destiny as that's what its called on the page/single cover. --  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  [talk]  04:32, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:34, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Logan Talk Contributions 06:05, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete - from WP:NALBUMS:
 * "In general, if the musician or ensemble is notable, and if the album in question has been mentioned in multiple reliable sources, then their officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia."


 * Clearly, the artist, Destiny's Child, is notable. However, a Google News search doesn't bring up a single mention of the album. WikiManOne (talk) 06:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you're at the wrong site. This is Wikipedia, an encyclopedia, not a search engine for recent news stories.  The album was from 2001 and likely not big in the news 10 years later.  —   AjaxSmack   01:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. WP:NALBUMS doesn't mention anything about "non-charting".  And the album, though for sale in a limited space (like AC/DC's Black Ice), was released on Columbia (Sony Music Entertainment), hardly a minor label.  The article has significant text excluding the tracklist.  —   AjaxSmack   01:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * However it has not charted... so far its notable enough for the discography though nothing about what you've just said explains why its notable for an independent page. NALBUMS says "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article". Byw the 'additional significant context' you mention is simply a written explanation of the tracklist. Per NALBUMS there is little more than a track listing and so a separate page is NOT required. --  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  [talk]  01:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Charting is not required per WP:NALBUMS. As far as "little more than a track listing", the article discusses the unusual method of release of the album, the presence of previously unreleased track and remixes and their origins, info on the cover work, and info on the promotional work.  That's a good bit more than many album stubs and not the sort of info that would fit in a discography.  —   AjaxSmack   02:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Its a stub, a minor insignificant release which didn't receive independent coverage. Two of its sources are inappropriate (discogs is not a WP:RS and youtube is never an appropriate source). There is no proof for the other claims and the two remaining sources simply tell us that Joseph Khan shot a promo for the album. This could easily be merged to Destiny's Child article in around three sentences. I dispute the claim that it provides more than a track listing. I'm not saying that charting is required per NALBUMS but I am saying that charting would strengthen its claim to more than a tracklisting. Additionally now that you mention it this article struggles to even pass WP:GNG. --  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  [talk]  02:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


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