Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Love (2008 Indonesian film) (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep, nomination withdrawn. BencherliteTalk 11:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Love (2008 Indonesian film)
AfDs for this article: 
 * Withdraw - Article now has references to assert notability and has been expanded into a useful encyclopedia entry. DiiCinta (talk) 11:24, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
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I can find no siginificant coverage in reliable sources to assert that this film passes GNG or Notability (films). Although there may be Indonesian language references that could assert notability, but my Indonesian is far too limited to find them. DiiCinta (talk) 19:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per the last AfD. Joe Chill (talk) 21:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Question - The last AFD resulted in a keep based upon a section of WP:NF that has since changed ("The film was successfully distributed domestically in a country that is not a major film producing country"). This was the sole argument used in the last AFD however it is now different in WP:NF. So how can you base your keep vote on the last AFD? DiiCinta (talk) 22:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The current policy is "The film was successfully distributed domestically in a country that is not a major film producing country, and was produced by that country's equivalent of a "major film studio." Articles on such a film should assert that the film in question was notable for something more than merely having been produced, and if any document can be found to support this, in any language, it should be cited". This article clearly does not currently satisfy the criteria. DiiCinta (talk) 22:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:31, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:NF. To support its arguments toward keep, the last AFD also included reference to a lengthy review in Jakata Post. I note it is also covered in Sinar Harapan, and the award-winning filmmaker and his works is covered in multiple sources over multiple years. Appears to meet WP:GNG, and notability in Indonesia is notable enough for en.Wikipedia if sourced.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:28, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * And as I was quite surpised at how short the stub was, I expanded it from one sentence to THIS and began adding sources. Surmountable issues are reasons to address those issues... not to delete.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:14, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Article has now gone from a 9 word unsourced stub to a 303 word sourced article... a 33.7x expansion.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:51, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Per the fine improvement by MQS (though the film was worth an article no matter its previous state). Notable personnel, mainstream coverage, obviously notable in Indonesian cinema. We should really be bending over backwards to prevent Anglo-centric biased coverage. It's too bad so many editors are less concerned with preventing bias than with strictly following the letter of guidelines made up by those same editors... Dekkappai (talk) 06:01, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


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