Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luísa Beirão


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The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn - Although there's a delete !vote present the Keep !voter provided sources which I'm happy wit so closing as SK/Witdrawn (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 13:13, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Luísa Beirão

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Non notable model, The entire article is unsourced and most sources on Google are mentions and aren't anything substantial, Her article on the Portuguese wiki cites no sources either, Fails MODEL & GNG. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:39, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable model.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:22, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 20:35, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 20:35, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 20:35, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:47, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Most Google hits are just mentions, but there's enough coverage specifically dedicated to her (e.g. mentioning her in the headline) this year alone to suggest notability; the height of her career would have been at the turn of the century, so Google is unlikely to give us the full picture. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 00:08, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * All of what I'm finding are just mentions and you can't make an article out of any of them, There may well be sources offline however that would only be a guess and we shouldn't just keep articles on the basis of "I'm sure there's some offline), She's been a model since 1999 and therefore there should be substantial coverage online as well as off, I can't speak inre to offline sources however online is just mentions which is extremely poor for someone who's been modelling for what 15 years?..... – Davey 2010 Talk 01:42, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

This isn't some aspiring wannabe, she's been in Men's Health (and a national newspaper reported on the fact), Vogue Portugal, GQ Portugal – I'm no expert on models (I only ended up commenting here because from time to time I scan AfDs for foreign-looking names out of a concern for Systemic bias) but I would suggest this constitutes multiple major appearances. This is just from two pages of the most recent hits on Google News, for someone whose modelling career was at its peak over a decade ago. It's not a "guess" that there would be offline sources, it's a moral certainty. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 09:57, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Not sure how to format this, so taking it back to the left margin.
 * 1) Diário de Notícias (a major newspaper), headline "Luísa Beirão em forma na 'Men's Health'" - 29 Jan 2016. When a national newspaper makes an article out of her doing a shoot for Men's Health, even though it's only 3 short paragraphs, my guess would be she's newsworthy in her own right.
 * 2) Diário de Notícias (again), she's only mentioned and pictured, but the headline "Quando o termómetro sobe... as famosas refrescam-se" (when the temperature rises ... the famous cool off) indicates this is a survey of swimwear of the famous; so a direct statement of her notability in a national newspaper
 * 3) GQ Portugal, "Portugal Fashion em 125 imagens", "mentions" her as one of three nomes famosos pela catwalk, which I'm guessing means something like "famous names on the catwalk", so another direct statement of notability - 18 Oct 2016
 * 4) Lux, headline "Vídeo e fotos: Luísa Beirão é estrela no desfile de Diogo Miranda" - 17 Oct 2016; doesn't say much about her, but as the headline indicates, it's a story providing photos and videos of her doing her job
 * 5) Lux itself is some sort of fashion/celebrity/gossip magazine, and searching its archives on her name gives eight pages of dedicated coverage going back to 2008, including a profile of her (16 Aug 2016). Whether Lux is a reliable source is a question for someone who knows about the Portuguese media scene.
 * 6) Move Notícias, headline "Luísa Beirão troca a moda pelo desporto" -16 Oct 2016
 * 7) Activa, headline "Portugal Fashion: As 'Demoiselles' de Diogo Miranda (com a presença especial de Luísa Beirão)" - 19 Oct 2016; even though she isn't more than mentioned in the article, putting "com a presença especial de Luísa Beirão" in the headline suggests she is in some way notable.
 * 8) Observador (a major newspaper) - 14 Oct 2016: not in the headline but "mentioned" four times in the course of the article
 * 9) Vogue Portugal, just a photo of her, in the "paparazzi" section, headed "Falamos das pistas de estilo que Luísa Beirão nos deixa nesta imagem - e que são tudo o que precisávamos de saber sobre o que vestir num festival de música." Just a "mention", but a major fashion magazine thinks it's worth dedicating a page to a picture of her chilling at a music festival.
 * Oh wow thank you, Having looked through the cites, 1,3-6 can easily be used so I'll add those to the article, I just want to state tho there's no systematic bias here - I simply nominate on the notability/sources (or lack of), I've nominated many British actresses/actors too, I have to respectfully disagree with your last statement - Unless you have books, newspaper articles etc etc on this BLP then you cannot say "it's a moral certainty" - At the end of the day it's a wild guess, But anyway thank you for finding the cites :), – Davey 2010 Talk 13:03, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


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