Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luc Grethen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Per SNOW. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith! Missvain (talk) 15:48, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Luc Grethen

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Doesn't meet WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 21:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:58, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Luxembourg-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:58, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion as been notified to WikiProject Classical music. Voceditenore (talk) 11:21, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion as been notified to WikiProject Composers. Voceditenore (talk) 11:21, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete: I've done some Google searching myself and haven't found anything but places to buy his music. Perhaps I'm missing something here, but I also suspect this fails WP:GNG, WP:NMUSIC, and WP:BIO. Waggie (talk) 00:54, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I have done a thorough search and turned up nothing that remotely suggests that the subject passes the criteria either at WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. Sum total:


 * 1. Concert announcement by the non-notable Ettelbruck (pop. 9000) city orchestra. The concert played compositions by Grethen and 4 other composers. Contains 3-sentence potted bio.


 * 2. 2018 Concert season announcement for the Solistes européens Luxembourg with Grethen's name listed as one of the composers whose work they will play, but nothing else about him or his work.


 * 3. Report of a concert given by the Holzbläserquartett in a church in Erbendorf (pop. 5000) with his name listed amongst the composers played but nothing else about him or his work.


 * 4. Announcement from the European Union of Music Competitions for Youth about the results of a competition for young musicians in Luxembourg. It states that Grethen was one of 2 composers commissioned to write a piece for the competitors to play, but nothing else about him or his work.


 * 5. Name listed as one of several younger Luxembourg composers in Histoire contemporaine du Grand-Duché de Luxembourg, Vol. 13. 1994, but nothing else about him or his work.


 * 6. 2005 Annual Report from the Luxembourg Society for Contemporary Music mentioning a compilation CD which they released and listing the names of the 10 composers whose works appear on it, but nothing else about him or his work.


 * In short, no significant coverage of either him or his works, no major awards, no recordings on notable labels, no evidence of works played by notable soloists or ensembles in notable venues (let alone reviews). Background note: From the creator's user name, this was pretty clearly an autobiography . This user also created it on the German  and French WPs around the same time. The French version was deleted shortly thereafter per this AfD in which the creator used two socks in an attempt to swing the vote to "keep". Voceditenore (talk) 11:07, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - Based on 's due diligence. Missvain (talk) 18:53, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete – In addition to the thin sources found by Voceditenore, I can add only a notice on the "World Premieres" page of the Neue Zeitschrift für Musik 177 no. 4 (2016): 79, of the 19 September 2016 premiere of Upswing in the Luxembourg Philharmonie (performers not named). As with those other listings, there is nothing further about the composer, and all that is said about the composition is that it is a commission by the Ministry of Culture.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:17, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Jerome, I think the Neue Zeitschrift für Musik notice is referring to this 2016 concert given by the Solistes européens Luxembourg (mentioned above re their 2018 season announcement). The remainder of the programme for the 2016 concert was Shostakovich's Symphony N° 9 and Sibelius's Symphony N° 5 but as in the Neue Zeitschrift für Musik, there is nothing in it about Grethen or the piece they premiered, apart from the fact that it had been commissioned by the Ministry of Culture. Voceditenore (talk) 06:44, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Aha. So, nothing new there, then.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 07:47, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, actually Jerome, your 2016 premiere is new. The first Solistes européens Luxembourg link was to their 2018 concert season announcement. The new one I added merely confirms who performed the premiere in 2016. The venue, Luxembourg Philharmonie, is reasonably notable (at least in Luxembourg), but I fear this is hardly enough to demonstrate notability of the composer. Voceditenore (talk) 09:24, 28 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Agree with statements above. Only found three extremely brief mentions in routine coverage. Fails GNG and (as far as I can tell) WP:MUSIC. PK650 (talk) 21:49, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SNOW and WP:SALT - everybody knows in 2020 that we are not a resume service. This is a particularly run of the mill composer. Bearian (talk) 18:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.