Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucas Biespiel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Speedy delete per WP:CSD. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:21, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Lucas Biespiel

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Fails notability Dlabtot (talk) 02:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Doesn't pass WP:BAND. Bart133 (t) (c) 02:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete. Artist does not assert notability and provide no sources. Rwiggum  (Talk /Contrib ) 02:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * (Edit Conflict)
 * Keep &mdash; "Lucas Biespiel is a 15 year old folk singer-songwriter in Portland, Oregon.
 * No, not really. But Portland is, well, Portland.
 * "The lyrical element of his music is not what you would typically expect to hear from a 15 year old..."
 * There are not enough tags on Wikipedia for this article. WP:N, WP:BAND, WP:NPOV, WP:RS (MySpace? Are you kidding me?), WP:ETC...
 * DELETE &mdash; Maybe Speedy Delete as Vanity page.
 *   Vengeance is mine,   saith   the Prime   ♥  02:46, 4 Aug 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The above was NOT an edit conflict with a keep vote, in case anyone else is tempted to check the history to make sure. --Dhartung | Talk 03:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete, no indication subject passes WP:MUSIC. --Dhartung | Talk 03:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not really sure what your problem with this site is. The guy's 15. He lives in Portland, what's wrong with that. The most professional website he has is myspace. Don't quite understand what you mean by not enough tags. Don't quite get this wikipedia lingo. All I was trying to do is set up a wikipedia site for a good musician who should be on here. If you'd like to help me with the professional part of it, be my guest. Don't just go all crazy and delete it.--Aitthen (talk) 05:06, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Your confusion could probably most easily be cleared up by reading WP:BAND, which describes the notability requirements for articles about musicians. Dlabtot (talk) 05:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   — Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 05:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I've tried in Google News archives, and in a library database of newspaper and magazine articles, and have been unable to come up with any sources to establish WP:N notability. Delete unless sources are forthcoming by the end of this deletion discussion. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 05:13, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering why you guys want to get rid of a wikipedia page about me. I know I haven't been in the newspaper: I've played one show (or formal show if you want to use the language on this cool page about me) and am not that popular, except to my friends, and people who were there. If you want some proof of my existence as a musician just go to the Hawthorne Theater Websitewhere I have my next show. I'm listed to play there on the 14 of September. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbiespiel (talk • contribs) 05:22, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well to be frank, that's exactly it. You aren't notable, and you don't meet any of the guidelines of MUSIC. Plus, that you created your own article makes it very much a vanity article and in conflict with WP:COI. Seems like an open-and-shut AfD to me. Rwiggum  (Talk /Contrib ) 05:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that I forgot to sign my name. I didn't make the page, someone who was at one of my shows did (aitthen, wish I knew who he/she was). Obviously they think I'm notable. I bet I could find a few other people who think I'm notable as well.--Lbiespiel (talk) 05:29, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:MUSIC. Dlabtot (talk) 05:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I already have. Now you go see the Hawthorne Theater Website, and look under the 14th of September.--Lbiespiel (talk) 05:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you read WP:MUSIC, then you would understand why this is a done discussion. You've said yourself that you don't have much of a following, and you've only played one show. The problem isn't whether or not you exist, it's that you aren't notable enough in regards to WP:MUSIC. Rwiggum  (Talk /Contrib ) 05:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Obviously he does have a following, or else I wouldn't have attempted to create this page.--Aitthen (talk) 05:58, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * But that says nothing of the SIZE of his following. For all we know, you could be his only fan. I'm not speaking to his quality, but simply to the fact that the subject meets absolutely NONE of the WP:MUSIC, and has himself confirmed this. As I see it, it's pretty much just a matter of time until an admin closes this and deletes the article. Rwiggum  (Talk /Contrib ) 06:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


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