Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luce Maced


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The result was delete and redirect to List of French supercentenarians. MelanieN (talk) 23:26, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Luce Maced

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Clear failure of WP:GNG as there is no coverage in any sources. Nothing in this article that isn't already present in List of French supercentenarians. Per WP:NOPAGE and the guidelines at the WP:WOP, this person belongs on a list and not a standalone article. CommanderLinx (talk) 03:28, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:42, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:08, 11 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete and then create a new redirect to List of French supercentenarians per CommanderLinx and probably qualifies for a speedy delete as a creation by block evading sock, User:104.56.23.57. The article should be deleted first and a new redirect created. The material in List of French supercentenarians long predates the creation of this non-article. There was no merge requiring attribution and thus keeping the edit history. As David in DC pointed out at Articles for deletion/Anna Ringier, there is absolutely no reason why we should keep useless, duplicate content (even in an edit history) which simply validates and encourages the behaviour of a disruptive, long-term sockfarm. Voceditenore (talk) 13:13, 12 June 2016 (UTC) Updated by Voceditenore (talk) 09:39, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Japanese supercentenarians, we never delete when a redirect is appropriate. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 16:34, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * ??? Richard Arthur Norton, surely you mean List of French supercentenarians. She wasn't Japanese. Voceditenore (talk) 15:52, 16 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete, then redirect for the reasons stated by the nominator and by CommanderLinx. I've read what that David guy wrote at the Ringier AfD referenced in the Commander's !vote. He's usually pedantic and often wrong, but in this one case, it looks like he's got it right. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut, occasionally. David in DC (talk) 14:25, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Arrgh. Above where I say Commander, I mean Voceditenore. And vice versa. D'oh! David in DC (talk) 14:36, 16 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete/redirect "oldest person to have ever lived in French territory" -- not France, not France+territories, but just territories. Coverage: zilch.  E Eng  14:27, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to List of French supercentenarians. NewYorkActuary (talk) 16:28, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete/redirect. WP:NOPAGE, WP:PERMASTUB, fails WP:GNG. ~ RobTalk 18:54, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Why would you want to delete then redirect, instead of redirect. When you argue for that you seem passionately against the topic. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 19:15, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not a merge, so there's nothing to save for copyright reasons. The logic of the essays WP:KIBOSH and WP:JUNK apply here, especially with the known propensity of longevity hobbyists and their socks to recreate these articles after they've been deleted or redirected.
 * When I'm passionate about something, I'm a heckuva lot more effusive than this. I promise, if I'm passionate about something, it'll be obvious. You'll not need to interpret based on how I "seem". David in DC (talk) 19:45, 16 June 2016 (UTC)


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