Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucifer's Unholy Desire


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   userfied - needs some coverage before this can be hosted in mainspace. Spartaz Humbug! 17:32, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Lucifer's Unholy Desire

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Non-notable film lacking GHits and GNEWs of substance. Film is in development and not yet filming. Fails WP:NOTFILM.  ttonyb (talk) 13:12, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. This film is fully completed, having debuted at the Pittsburgh Horror Film Festival on June 3, 2011 as indicated in the article and supported in the reference.  Cind. amuse  17:09, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete (or Userfy or Incubate without prejudice for a few months, as the reference indicates that it was the trailer for this film that has screened at the festival and that "post-production is scheduled to be complete as early as this fall". The reference is very decent coverage, but as we have only a trailer and not yet a completed film, and as the production does not have persistent coverage, this one does not quite qualify as a possible exception to WP:NFF. NOTE: It is to be granted that because of the writer and director being Pennsylvania's 48th State House District 2010 Republican nominee, the trailer IS getting a lot of genre attention... and I have added them as sources to the article. Fair is fair.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * If you check the IMDB page, 2 articles have been written on various sites within 1-2 days of screening the trailer at the Pittsburgh, Film Festival. This film was written and directed by a politician who ran for State Rep in Pennsylvania twice. This page is a work in progress and as I have time to edit it and add more things, The notability will show itself. Tearstar (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2011 (UTC)*:
 * I did more than just look at the IMDB news links... I searched out more articles myself and added them TO the article as sources when I did cleanup for style and format. I gladly agree that the film's production is "beginning" to get decent coverage, and that more is appearing on an almost daily basis.  But what must be acknowledged is that we do not yet have the completed film, only the trailer.  We then look to WP:NFF to see how to deal with articles on unreleased films... and then decide if its production has had enough enduring and peristant coverage as unreleased film to merit being one of those rare exceptions to WP:NFF.  Today and tomorrow... no.  But over the following weeks, quite likely.  I also agree that the topic will almost assuredly prove its notability and be warmly accepted by Wikipedia some short while down the road.  Just not quite yet.  I understand that it is a work-in-progress and respect your wish to continue working on it.  But the place to do that for articles which are not quite ready for mainspace would be either a userspace or in the incubator.  I have some experience with film article, and I'll be quite happy to assist.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Userfy. I agree with Michael's recommendation and comment above. As soon as we have significant coverage in reliable and independent sources, we can move the article to the mainspace. Best regards,  Cind. amuse  00:15, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.