Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucinda Bassett


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.  MBisanz  talk 01:10, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Lucinda Bassett

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No credible claim of significance, fails WP:NOTABILITY. Piece also reads as very promotional. TomStar81 (Talk) 02:06, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Article is a stub and requires time to be developed. The numerous sources in the article establish the notability. Her infomercial is one of the most recognized and ubiquitous in history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrJDsJl2ELY She's a bestselling author and has been on every major talk show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Wt2pCCct0 Her products are bestsellers on Amazon and with glowing reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Attacking-Anxiety-Depression-Drug-Free-Self-Help/dp/B000SO5IMI Plus, she's a well-known radio talk show host in LA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUvL7albR90 Copy Editor (talk) 02:30, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nomination. Fails WP:BIO, WP:AUTHOR and WP:ACADEMIC. Yet one more from the seemingly infinite queue of self-help salespeople. I can find no significant coverage online from WP:RS, just a metric ton of self-promotion and press releases, and a few interviews in local press (e.g. Malibu Times, cited). There's some fairly interesting (mostly negative) discussion of her work by real psychologists on blogs, but again that's not WP:RS. Article was already speedied db-bio once in 2007, and once again yesterday. This latest attempt was created as Lucinda Redick Bassett for some reason, and linked by that name from self help by the same editor. Wikishovel (talk) 05:30, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I linked this page to the self-help page because she is a self-help author. I created this page as "Lucinda Redick Bassett" because that is her name. Copy Editor (talk) 11:28, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. No impact on literature. Nauseatingly promotional. Xxanthippe (talk) 05:45, 28 October 2016 (UTC).
 * Comment i'm the one who started this page  and the one who wrote it.  I am not affiliated with the subject whatsoever and therefore this page is not written in an attempt to be promotional.  The information I included was an attempt to make it verifiable and to demonstrate notability. Copy Editor (talk) 07:50, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and Draft instead and I'm willing to take care of it while there because WorldCat shows over 2,000 library collections and these books are by major publishing companies which is in fact satisfying the authors notability (highest held book is in nearly 900 library alone), so that is improvable, and that is surely a sign of available book reviews and, once achieved with that, this is notable. SwisterTwister   talk  06:06, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Good point. I don't understand how an author who is published by such big publishers isn't notable, particularly given that at least one of the books was a bestseller that was translated into foreign languages. https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n95075001/ Copy Editor (talk) 07:41, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * So many books are published by regular publishers that they can't all be notable. They will sell, probably, because of the vastly greater publicity that the publisher can generate, as opposed to the self-published who have to do all the work themselves. But sales are not what Wikipedia works on. I'd think ST is right on this, that more work is needed and a move to Draft space could be beneficial. Peridon (talk) 14:00, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. But what is a draft space? Copy Editor (talk) 21:51, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Different areas on Wikipedia have prefixes to the page names - this page in in the Wikipedia: (or WP:) space. This is for sort of official space. User: is user space, Special: is for odd things that the technically minded know all about (or claim they do...), Template: is for guess what, and articles don't have a prefix because that would confuse visitors even more than than now. Draft: is a fairly recent space, which is for things under construction that aren't yet ready for article space. In Draft: space, anyone can help to build a draft up (though I would doubt that very much of this goes on unless someone like ST offers help here at AfD). The alternative is moving to your userspace (where outside help is even less likely without direct appeal) and that would be to User:Copy Editor/title. In both user and draft spaces, the patrollers can usually only tag for copyvio, attack, advertising or hoax. Using either of these spaces is like using a nursery rather than scattering seeds in the garden. Peridon (talk) 11:48, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep I've done some clean up and expansion with additional references. Meets WP:AUTHOR #3 and WP:GNG. Article could use expansion, not deletion per WP:ATD. Hmlarson (talk) 02:12, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clean-up. The BLP is smarter but notability is still not improved. I still vote delete. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:30, 3 November 2016 (UTC).
 * Wikipedia's notability is defined outside of Wikipedia, and WP:N is not a content guideline, so it makes no sense to say that after an edit, "notability is...not improved". Unscintillating (talk) 17:12, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Notability is not improved because no better sources have been found. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:07, 5 November 2016 (UTC).
 * In 2001, Bassett took part in a collaborative venture alongside Roberta Flack, Diana Krall, F. Murray Abraham, and Nona Hendryx, all of whom contributed a track to the meditation album "Visionary Path." Bassett narrated a track called "Mountains."    Copy Editor (talk) 09:54, 8 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep: Adequate indicia of notability, published and a number of works. The tone is too promotional, but there have been improvements, and again, article quality is not a notability question.   Montanabw (talk) 06:58, 5 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep -- worth keeping at this point under WP:AUTHOR; thanks for the improvements. K.e.coffman (talk) 07:13, 5 November 2016 (UTC)


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