Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucinda Black Bear


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 17:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Lucinda Black Bear

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Non-notable band. Only possible indication of notability is a passing mention by National Public Radio. Nothing else at all. There's not even a discography included, nor any other references aside form a link to the band's website. (Contested speedy.) - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 18:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete1 as article fails notability criteria for bands. No releases. Armbrust  Talk  Contribs  01:20, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The band's discography is listed on the page, which can be confirmed by going to iTunes, Amazon or CD Baby. You can find a video for one of their singles (You Got It Blue on YouTube). Also, the band has worked with Austin Lynn Austin, a notable director who has worked with Madonna and the like. Mentions by the Village Voice, NPR, Prefix, Brooklyn Rail and km cero I think justify the existence of the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.225.221.92 (talk) 15:40, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply: Existence does not equate with notability. Tell us how this band passes these criteria. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 20:39, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply The most sources mentioned, are not reliable. And working with a notable person does not make them notable per WP:NOTINHERITED. Armbrust  Talk  Contribs  04:18, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: I was the one who added the first sources and contested the speedy deletion, but I can't find anything else myself. Unless more sources are forthcoming, this group does not meet the notability criteria for bands, and the few reliable sources mention the subject only in passing, so it doesn't meet the general notability guidelines, either.  Qwyrxian (talk) 21:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Who said existence equates with notability or that working with someone notable makes them notable? Don't try to take things out of context in order to strengthen your argument based upon the original comment. Be honest and give this band an honest shake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgracie (talk • contribs) 19:16, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The point that Realkyhick was making is that we agree that the discography and home page verify that the band exists, however, nothing in the article proves that they are notable. Please see WP:MUSIC, which lists the specific criteria which must be used to establish that a band is notable. If you believe that the band meets that criteria, please explain.  Qwyrxian (talk) 21:58, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is what we're discussing here - the band's notability, and whether or not it is sufficient for it to have its own article. And I'm being brutally honest. You're not telling us how the band meets Wikipedia's notability requirements, as we requested that you do. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 15:56, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:21, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete, doesn't appear to meet WP:MUSIC, despite the NPR mention. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.