Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucy Becker


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 03:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Lucy Becker

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non-notable model. Originally prodded with the following rationale by User:Dismas: "No coverage in secondary sources that I can find. A Google news search returns a number of articles about doctors and lawyers with the same name but after weeding those out, none appear to be about this woman. Appears to be NN model per Notability (people). Her official bio mentions acting in a television show for two episodes but IMDb and TV.com don't show it." Tavix (talk) 02:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete I stand by my original prod.  Dismas |(talk) 03:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. Dismas |(talk) 03:12, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per prod & nominator. --Nick—Contact/Contribs 04:07, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: per WP:N. South Bay (talk) 04:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Seems to have a couple articles about her in the english press to satisfy WP:BIO. Morbidthoughts (talk) 06:01, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Since there are only nine results to that Google search, I've gone through them...
 * 1) Property Week magazine is a trade journal who did a fluff piece on Becker going back to work as a model.
 * 2) Without purchasing the article, I can't see if the Sacramento Bee article is actually talking about the same Lucy Becker but either way, the article's focus doesn't appear to be her. It just seems to mention her.  And what she's doing in an American city newspaper, I'm not sure.
 * 3) A mention that she was #19 in a list of most searched for celebs for a single month. That being the previous month, so she wasn't popular enough to last any longer than that.
 * 4) Another mention by Property Week but this time the article is about a guy and the article is "for the ladies". So it doesn't focus on Becker.
 * 5) Business Wire - Not the same Lucy Becker
 * 6) Knight Ridder - So far the only major coverage if the article is longer than a couple paragraphs.
 * 7) The original printing of #5 above.
 * 8) An ad basically to get you to vote for one of however many girls to be the spokesmodel for Big D peanuts (article?).
 * 9) Another printing of #5 and 7. This includes the rest of the article which confirms that it's referring to the "Lucy Becker Professor in Medicine and of Microbiology and Immunology" which seems to be a title of sorts and not anything to do with the model.
 * So, only the Property Week article is actually about her. The rest are either about other people or mere mentions of her or someone with her name (#2)  Dismas |(talk) 09:27, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It is a mistake to assume an article has to be about the subject to be a good source. If the article has a single mention about her, but that mention means she meets some other WP:BIO or WP:CREATIVE criteria, then she's notable. Say for example you have a single mention about someone in a reliable newspaper and nowhere else, but that paper reports the person won an Academy Award, they'd clearly meet the inclusion criteria (enough to be mentioned on some level). It is not the number of size of the articles that matters, but wha they say. By the way, your assessment on number 1 is a personal opinion, unless you know of some objective way to keep fluff pieces apart from other news articles. Since most of the articles are off-limit to me according to Google I reserve my judgement until I see the actual content of the articles in question. - Mgm|(talk) 12:16, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * 6 is also about her return to modeling from being a simple receptionist. Askmen.com confirms she has modeled for Maxim and was the first centerfold for FHM.com. Her TV appearances were on some soap opera called Hollyoaks. Morbidthoughts (talk) 14:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.