Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ludwig Heidler


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The result was   speedy delete. G3, hoax. The Bushranger One ping only 22:04, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Ludwig Heidler

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I believe this article to be a hoax for several reasons. First, there is absolutely no trace of a Ludwig Heidler ever existing in online or offline sources. Secondly, the article claims that he received the Knights Cross with Oak Leaves. This was a highly prestigious honour, which the Nazis only granted for exceptional acts of bravery. In total, only 882 people out of millions of Germans serving in World War 2 were granted that honour. Given how scarce it was, the people who received it are well documented and no Ludwig Heidler appears among the List_of_Knight's_Cross_of_the_Iron_Cross_with_Oak_Leaves_recipients_(1942) or List_of_Knight's_Cross_of_the_Iron_Cross_with_Oak_Leaves_recipients_(1943). Finally there is absolutely no source showing that the supposed battle in the village of Andorf actually took place. The Anschluss took place without any fighting and an event where most of an SS unit of 240 men was wiped out and 38 locals were killed certainly would have been documented. Valenciano (talk) 21:05, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me   What did he do now?  21:20, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me   What did he do now?  21:20, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment It looks as if they've caught on over at the Danish Wikipedia as well:  Jinkinson   talk to me   What did he do now?  21:21, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I did inform them over there. Valenciano (talk) 21:31, 10 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. I can find no evidence of this man's having existed (including if his name was actually Hiedler as in the lede), and neither the Frankfurt Zeitschrift von Geschichte (spelling error corrected, and I also searched with für instead of von, and with Frankfurter) nor the memoirs of Konrad Edelbach appear to exist. So I reluctantly agree with the nominator that this is a hoax. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:28, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment The Danish article has been nominated for deletion as well. User:Kong amdi I has made at least one (other) hoax article on Danish Wikipedia. Pugilist (talk) 22:38, 10 December 2013 (UTC) The Danish article has been deleted. The contributions from the user has been examined and most of it was misinformation and several hoaxes. Pugilist (talk) 00:05, 11 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. I've been meaning to nominate this one myself for a while. None of the alleged sources seem to exist in the first place, let alone support the claims in the article. Hqb (talk) 16:15, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, hoax apparently created by multiple hoaxer. Not very plausible fake German sources, too. —Kusma (t·c) 21:39, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
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