Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luis Díaz (baseball)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  05:32, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Luis Díaz (baseball)

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Cuban league baseball player. Does not appear to have played in any major international tournaments and the Cuban league itself does not qualify for WP:BASE/N. Spanneraol (talk) 12:25, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Spanneraol (talk) 12:26, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cuba-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:14, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

16 years in the Cuban league but he didn't get enough media coverage to meet what has become a very low GNG standard here in the baseball section? Hard to believe. - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 22:27, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:25, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete with reluctance. There is no qualifying redirect or merge target, and the article only references one blog obituary.  Spanish-language searches turn up a number of Luis Felipe Diaz's, none of them apparently this one.  No participation on the competition levels asked of by WP:NBASE and nothing but that one blog for WP:GNG. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:58, 25 April 2017 (UTC)  struck own vote to update based on new information - please see below. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:51, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - It doesn't seem credible to me that someone with that long a career in the Cuban league would not have some coverage. His obituary from the Havana Times provides at least one instance of significant coverage and is substantial enough to suggest that he wasn't some nobody who didn't attract any attention until he died.  He does have some brief mentions here and here that I could find.  I have to believe that the difficulty finding more significant coverage is due to difficulty getting information from Cuba than because it just doesn't exist. Rlendog (talk) 21:54, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947 (c)  22:22, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Aforementioned sources are nothing but Luis Felipe Diaz's name mentioned once in interviews namedropping other Cuban ballplayers. Not even close to notable. sixty nine   • speak up •  22:39, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
 * This is hardly just namedropping other Cuban ballplayers. Rlendog (talk) 19:33, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * This is another article, short but more than mere namedropping. Rlendog (talk) 19:43, 27 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment I don't have time to look for sources from ten or twenty years ago, which may or may not be online anyway, but as is common in Latin America, this guy was known as Luis Felipe Diaz during his career and not simply Luis Diaz, as his page suggests. If people are searching for the latter, they might be missing sources, although, again, Cuba was way behind when it comes to the internet and most of his coverage was probably in printed form. - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 04:30, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The offline nature of Cuban sources does indeed have effects here but Cuban players are not relieved of the need for WP:V just because of the former U.S. embargo. In the meantime, I did search for Luis Felipe Diaz in both English and Spanish-language sources, as mentioned above.  If there is a user with access to hard-copy archives in Cuba, they can recreate what is currently a quite short article and probably make it better. AfD is not virtual exile from the project, after all. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:10, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed the information in the article needs to conform with WP:V. But there are adequate reliable sources, which include stat sites which would not be relevant for WP:N to support a brief, verifiable article on Diaz. Rlendog (talk) 19:35, 27 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep After further searches prompted by 's comments, have found four more obituaries,   which persuades me that there is enough to justify keeping under WP:GNG. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:51, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Any viable English-language sources, though? sixty nine   • speak up •  16:03, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Some of these sources are English. But what is wrong with Spanish sources for an article about a Cuban subject? Rlendog (talk) 21:31, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 06:32, 4 May 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   11:20, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Rlendog and Eggishorn. We don't need to have English sources for a Cuban athlete. Lepricavark (talk) 15:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Rlendog and Eggishorn's sources. WP:BIAS might also come into play here. Ejgreen77 (talk) 23:03, 18 May 2017 (UTC)


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