Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luis Garza (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 00:27, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Luis Garza
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Luis Garza is a Catholic priest who served as a mid-ranking official in the Legion of Christ back in the early 2000s. He does not meet the WP:notability standards, the only non-primary source about him is an article detailing two former Legion of Christ priests’ opinions on him. All other articles sourced are either just giving him a brief name-drop or are from the Legion of Christ itself. A google search shows no secondary sources about Fr. Garza, and there is nothing inherently notable about him. He was accused of sexual assault, but later cleared of the accusations, and he served as an official in the Church. The articles about leak of offshore holdings only talk about his family’s business and the LC, with him again only being briefly mentioned. The article seems like unnecessary information about a non-notable individual TheAmericanWarlord (talk) 00:26, 22 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:40, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2022 July 22.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 00:40, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * comment:I noticed a previous AfD failed because he was Vicar General. This does not make him inherently notable, especially considering no other LC vicars have their own articles, and the overall leader of the Legion, John Connor, doesn’t either.TheAmericanWarlord (talk) 01:53, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This is sort of the reverse "Other Stuff Exists" argument: "Delete We do not have an article on y, so we should not have an article on this." Unlike at least some other LC General Vicars, Garza has been extensively written about.Jahaza (talk) 19:30, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Crime, Religion, Christianity,  and Mexico. jp×g 03:37, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Contrary to the nominator's assertion, Vargas was not a "mid-ranking official in the Legion of Christ," rather, he was the "second-in-command at the Legion" as of 2006. This is, in fact, indicated by his title, since a "vicar general" is one who stands in place of another (vicar) with the power to act in most circumstances (general). The nominator states that "a google search shows no secondary sources about Fr. Garza", but even at the time of the previous AFD for this article, a commentator noted that a Google book search revealed secondary coverage mentions. That is still the case, with books by journalists Jason Berry, John Thavis, Gianluigi Nuzzi, and Frederic Martel all mentioning Vargas and even directly noting his importance, Nuzzi calls him, "a figure of great importance in the life and history of the Legion". There's been extensive newspaper coverage of Garza in major newspapers like La Stampa, which called him "Up until a few months ago ... the Legion's most powerful figure".Jahaza (talk) 19:45, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This may be a case where infamy constitutes notability. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep Sources in the article cover the subject in some detail: (e.g. this one). 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 12:56, 30 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.