Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luis Mendoza (Venezuelan footballer)


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The result was keep. Missvain (talk) 00:17, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Luis Mendoza (Venezuelan footballer)

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The only sources I can find for him are playmakerstats.com and transfermarkt.com, both unreliable. Doesn't pass GNG. If someone else can find a reliable source to show that he played in a fully-pro league, I'll withdraw my nomination. Nehme1499 20:22, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Venezuela-related deletion discussions. <b style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:80%;color:#000080">Nehme</b><b style="font-family:Verdana;color:#27B382">1499</b> 20:22, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 21:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources found below which demonstrate notability, and subsequent article improvement. GiantSnowman 16:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete: per nom, fails NFOOTBALL and GNG CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 21:12, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per below changes.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:50, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep: So, I found this. Pretty much looks like his own CV uploaded online, thought it was interesting but could also lead us in a direction. Soccerwire has an article saying that he has played professionally in Venezuela BUT that could mean anything. worldfootball.net has it that he played in six Copa Libertadores matches in 1995. Ceroacero has a match lineup with a Luis Mendoza of Caracas FC. Also, this RSSSF states that "Luis Carlos Mendoza" played for Caracas FC against Deportivo Táchira and Botafogo. Also, this article is interesting. Essentially, Bernardo Añor scored for Caracas and set a record for being the son of another former Caracas player who scored for the club. The article also lists this also being done by Luis Mendoza "Mendocita" in 1986 and his sons, Luis Enrique and Luis Carlos while listing this Carlos as being with the club from 1987 to 1995. So I am pretty confident that this article for sure passes NFOOTY. He has plenty of appearances at a level that I would think leads to notability, just needs sources and revisions. Also this nugget of old html. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 12:28, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Interesting, so not only would he pass NFOOTY, but he would also be the son of the Luis Mendoza born in 1945? <b style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:80%;color:#000080">Nehme</b><b style="font-family:Verdana;color:#27B382">1499</b> 14:01, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I would say so. The gradadigital source says that Luis Mendoza is the son of this Luis Carlos Mendoza... and that older Mendoza was with Caracas FC in 1986. They 100% father/son. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 14:07, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep The subject does meet WP:NFOOTBALL, having played at the Venezuelan Primera División, which is included among WikiProject Football's fully professional leagues list.  I have found more sources included in the Spanish version of the article, where there is further information that could be translated: AVN(state source)Venezuelan Football History and Statistics Association and the RSSSF. There are more sources, but I haven't brought them up for being either dead links or in blogspot.
 * Mendoza was one of the first Venezuelan footballers to enter in the Hall of Fame, he played in eight Copas Libertadores, three Copas América and three World Cup classifications, and this comes from someone that isn't quite interested in sports. I have added the "Expand" tag and linked the article to other languages in Wikidata. The page is currently in a deplorable state, but the subject meets the notability standards to have an article. --NoonIcarus (talk) 12:52, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: Wrong Mendoza. Your article and source for Venezuela national caps is for the Mendoza born June 21, 1945. The one in this discussion is on the one born in 1970. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 13:25, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You're right. Many thanks for the correction, I have striken down my Keep. --NoonIcarus (talk) 16:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment, in view of ArsenalFan700's sources above, I withdraw my nomination. I have also cleaned up the article using said sources. Pinging <b style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:80%;color:#000080">Nehme</b><b style="font-family:Verdana;color:#27B382">1499</b> 16:53, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * <b style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:80%;color:#000080">Nehme</b><b style="font-family:Verdana;color:#27B382">1499</b> 16:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per Giant Snowman <b style="font-family: Verdana; color: #6633FF;">Dr</b> <b style="font-family: Verdana; color: #6633FF;">Salvus</b> 17:00, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - passes our standards following work done since the AfD started Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:39, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - appears to easily meet Nfootball and likely GNG with improvements to article. Nfitz (talk) 23:52, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


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