Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luke Cubis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus is that insufficient coverage exists in reliable sources to establish the notability of the subject under WP:NPOL. Mz7 (talk) 03:23, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Luke Cubis

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This is an article about a minor local government politician. No claims for notability are made apart from this. Grahame (talk) 01:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Grahame (talk) 01:46, 10 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - Non-notable local politician lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. Meatsgains (talk) 02:18, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 04:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 04:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

— WikiLuke1980 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete his highest claim to fame is being deputy mayor of a smallish regional council. fails WP:NPOL. LibStar (talk) 05:29, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Should keep this page. More detail and more citations have been added recently. Plus, if you want to delete this page, then you will need to delete this wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Deputy_mayors, and then delete the other 93 Wikipedia pages connected to it as they are all individual deputy mayor pages in New Zealand, Beijing and Israel (there are also other similar wiki pages that would also need to be deleted that have been approved) Wikipedia says: "These "other stuff exists" arguments can be valid or invalid". This one is valid as the page meets the same criteria that the 100s of others met and were approved on. This man is also mentioned on a bunch of other Wikipedia pages, so it gives more context and credibility to those other approved pages. If Admin want they can link this to any number of those or with the Deputy Mayor pages. Also, Lake Macquarie City is a big city in Australia. It is bigger than many high profile ones like Newcastle, Townsville and Darwin. Finally, being Deputy Mayor of a large city is notable.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiLuke1980 (talk • contribs) 06:36, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a reason for keeping. LibStar (talk) 09:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a place for self promotion. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:23, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. A couple of mentions in local Newcastle newspapers, but nothing more than incidental name drops in relation to articles on the council. Fails WP:NBIO and WP:NPOL. Kb.au (talk) 23:28, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Local politician with insufficient coverage to meet either general notability or political notability. PohranicniStraze (talk) 05:06, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Non notable regional politician that fails WP:NPOL.--SamHolt6 (talk) 20:08, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. While some of the articles in the tree may need to be reviewed, what WikiLuke is missing is that (a) Beijing is a major international global city, which is that rare class of cities where we accept even the regular city councillors as passing WP:NPOL, which Lake Macquarie is not, and (b) in the Israel and New Zealand categories it may be true that some of the articles may need to be reviewed for whether they're actually suitable for inclusion or not, many others are people who also served in the national Parliament of New Zealand or the Knesset and thus unconditionally pass WP:NPOL #1 regardless of the notability or non-notability of deputy mayors per se. Which makes them not relevant to this article's includability or deletability, because they're not equivalent situations. At any rate, deputy mayors are not a class of people who get an automatic presumption of notability on Wikipedia just because they exist — but what we've got here for referencing is a directly affiliated primary source (his profile on the city's own website), a routine list of all of the candidates in his electoral district, and just one reference that's actually about him (as well as two circular "references" to other Wikipedia articles, which had to be stripped because we're not allowed to do that). This is not enough coverage to consider him a special case who's somehow more notable than the norm among an otherwise non-notable class of officeholders. And our conflict of interest rules preclude Luke from creating the article himself, as well. Bearcat (talk) 20:21, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete being deputy mayor almost everywhere is not a sign of notability, it clearly is not in this location. If we kept any article just because there was a worse article not yet deleted, Wikipedia would just degenerate into an indiscriminate collection of knowledge.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:25, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.