Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lutwyche City Shopping Centre


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Normally, I would have closed this as Redirect, but Epinoia's arguments convinced me that delete makes more sense. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:28, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Lutwyche City Shopping Centre

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I found no significant coverage, mostly routine run of the mill coverage. Fails WP:CORP. SL93 (talk) 18:44, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:12, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:12, 23 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge or Redirect (Depending on whether anything is salvageable from the article) to Lutwyche, Queensland. Bookscale (talk) 00:33, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Please do not delete this article. I am the original author of the article and created the article as the Lutwyche Shopping Centre is a significant landmark in the suburb. I am also the Junior Vice-President of the historical society that covers the centre and have much information to contribute to the article. I created this article well before I was involved with the society but now have access to new information that I have started adding to the article since it was flagged for deletion. Colmiga (talk) 14:27, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Colmiga, thanks for being willing to improve the article and add additional information. Please note that Wikipedia has policies about general notability requirements as well as a requirement that reliable sources be added to articles to substantiate their notability. The shopping centre article currently has a single source that deals with the introduction of 2 hour paid parking in September 2019 which is not sufficient to suggest that it needs its own article. If you have secondary sources that document the history of the complex (they don't have to be online sources- books are fine) then feel free to list them here so other users can be informed that the shopping centre is indeed notable enough to have its own article. You will need to eventually add those sources to the article. Bookscale (talk) 13:47, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Having looked at the notability requirements it would be better to merge the article into the Lutwyche article. While the centre is the community hub of the suburb since the main shopping area has been diminished over time, I cannot think of a thing that sets it apart from other shopping centres of its type. Merging would also make it easier to maintain. This is sad to see a 12 year old article being deleted but if it cannot stand on its own I understand. Perhaps if something else is found about the centre in the future that makes it notable then it can be made into a separate article again. The only 2 unique things about the centre that set it apart I can think of off the top of my head is that the original escalators came from the TC Beirne building in Fortitude Valley and the Coles Supermarket was the first in Brisbane to be a combined New World Supermarket and Variety Store. I do have sources but will have to look in my Historical Society's physical files to locate them again. Colmiga (talk) 09:35, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - the biggest problem is that the article appears to be all original research WP:NOR - this shopping centre has not received significant coverage per WP:NBUILD, which says "commercial developments, may be notable as a result of their historic, social, economic, or architectural importance, but they require significant coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability" - the shopping centre is not mentioned in the Lutwyche, Queensland article (an indication of its lack of prominence), so there can't be a redirect unless it is merged - is it notable enough to merge? - even if merged it would need citations in the Lutwyche article or it will be deleted as Original Research (the link to a Courier Mail article is not working so impossible to tell if that article mentions more than the free parking) - it appears to be a non-notable run-of-the-mill shopping centre of local interest only - therefore, delete - Epinoia (talk) 21:27, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - dunno if IPs can comment here but, anyway, here goes! This has been virtually unsourced since creation in October 2008. The single source is about a tangential car parking issue. Since there is nothing substantial sourced there is nothing to be merged; we can't merge unsourced material. Fails WP:GNG. 2A02:C7F:4481:8300:90DC:E235:5074:54B0 (talk) 23:49, 30 August 2019 (UTC)


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