Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lyda Verstegen


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The result was Keep as per unanimous consensus and no calls for deletion beyond the nominator. A non-admin closure. And Adoil Descended (talk) 00:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Lyda Verstegen

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Doing some quick research in the way of Google News, I was unable to find any secondary sources for this article. General rule according to WP:BIO holds that there must be secondary sources, accordingly. On the other hand, Ms. Verstegen is the president of the International Alliance of Women. As near as I am able to tell, this, unto itself, does not connote notability. My concern, then, is that this does not meet our notability guidelines. I'm bringing this here after I prodded the article last week; the primary editor has remove the template and made changes, as well as added a couple of primary sources from IAW; with the assertion of notability, I will not speedy the article. -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 15:23, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - the IAW is an organization that has been a consulting NGO with the UN since the early 1960s, and has societies (chapters) with representatives from over 50 countries. It's a major international women's rights lobbying organization, I think that gives Verstegen enough notability, she's made constructive moves of her own since she's been in that role. She's active in a number of international initiatives with IAW, and a former president of a leading women's rights organization in the Netherlands. I've added a few sources to the article.OttawaAC (talk) 03:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:12, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong keep - if this was a guy representing some big international group to the United Nations, with same number and type of refs, would we be having this discussion?? CarolMooreDC 04:43, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - The IAW is an extremely large and important organization. For example, the IAW is one of only 24 NGOs with "consultative status 1" to the United Nations, which allows them to participate as observers at sessions on the UN Commission on the Status of Women, read its reports and documents, and address the CSW with their permission (see https://www.un.org/wcm/content/site/chronicle/home/archive/issues2010/empoweringwomen/briefsurveywomensrights ). The president of the IAW participates in United Nations sessions - 'nuff said. Catavar (talk) 06:34, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Verstegen's role as President of the International Alliance of Women establishes her notability. Gobōnobo  + c 17:04, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Carol, Catavar, and the rest of the folks here make a good call for keep. Sarah (talk) 18:47, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.