Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lydia Mak


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Lydia Mak
The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) ‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ JTtheOG (talk) 19:25, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


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The subject, a Hong Kong women's footballer, has not received enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 16:33, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football,  and Hong Kong. JTtheOG (talk) 16:33, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:13, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 20:04, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * , I've linked some sources below. Would you review them? Thank you. Cunard (talk) 10:54, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - enough sourcing to show notability, good work. GiantSnowman 18:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Notability (people), which says: "People are presumed if they have received significant coverage in  that are,  of each other, and .If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability." Sources   The article notes: "18歲的麥可兒今晨表示，自細已隨父親踢足球，到中學開始入選校隊，兩年前入選港隊U19，早前還躋身大港腳，有機會友賽緬甸. 居於將軍澳，在黃大仙區上學，但效力大埔的可兒表示，雖然日常要讀書及參與代表隊及球會的訓練，但未有因足球而影響學業，在過程中更學懂計劃及分配 時間. "  From Google Translate: "The 18-year-old Lydia Mak said this morning that she has been playing football with her father since she was a child. She started to be selected for the school team when she was in middle school. She was selected for the Hong Kong U19 team two years ago. She was also a member of the Hong Kong Football Team earlier and had the opportunity to play in a friendly match with Myanmar. Lydia, who lives in Tseung Kwan O and goes to school in Wong Tai Sin District, but plays for Tai Po, said that although she has to study and participate in the training of the representative team and football club on a daily basis, her studies have not been affected by football, and she has learned more about planning and allocation in the process." The article later notes: "麥可兒在中學文憑試（DSE）取得七科考獲5**以及一科5*，成了今年的「榜眼」. 她在中文、英文、數學、通識、物理、化學、M2（數學延伸課程單元二）七科考到5**，而在地理就取得5*，差一點當上狀元.  計畫入讀科大的國際科研，早已入選香港女子青年軍，亦曾入選港隊，參加過中國第13屆中學生運動會的女子足球預賽，可說女足難得的文武雙全的女子足球員. "  From Google Translate: "Lydia scored 5** in seven subjects and 5* in one subject in the Diploma of Secondary Education Examination (DSE), becoming this year's "second place". She scored 5* in seven subjects including Chinese, English, mathematics, general studies, physics, chemistry, and M2 (mathematics extended course unit 2), and she scored 5* in geography, almost becoming the top scholar. She plans to study international science at HKUST. She has already been selected for the Hong Kong Women’s Youth Army and the Hong Kong team. She participated in the women’s football preliminaries of the 13th China Secondary School Games. She can be said to be a rare female football player with both civil and military skills in women's football."   The article notes: "文武雙全的Lydia剛畢業於德望學校，在學時既要應付繁忙學業，亦需兼顧女足訓練，她對於充實的中學生涯別有一番體會 ..." From Google Translate: "Lydia, who is good at both the arts and sports, just graduated from Good Hope School. During her school days, she had to cope with busy studies and women's football training. She has a unique experience of a fulfilling middle school career ..."   The article notes: "包括大埔女足後衛麥可兒. 經過2日課程包括親身在場上執法後，她感受到裁判員要在電光火石之間作出正確判斷實非易事，未來也想嘗試在校內的比賽執法. ... 新學期將升大學三年級的麥可兒，是為期2天的香港足總女子裁判員課程其中一名學員" From Google Translate: "Including Tai Po women’s football defender Lydia Mak. After the two-day course, which included officiating on the field in person, she realized that it was not easy for referees to make correct judgments in the blink of an eye, and she wanted to try officiating in school games in the future. ... Lydia, who will be a third-year university student in the new semester, is one of the students in the two-day Hong Kong Football Association Women’s Referee Course ..."   The article notes: "在科大修讀國際科研（物理）的二年級生麥可兒是港隊女子足球隊成員，她表示，升上大學後計劃自己支付生活費，惟港隊訓練亦不能鬆懈，平時星期一至五放學後都要參加足球訓練，周六、周日則要做功課，只有周六上午可以兼任補習，獲得該筆獎學金後，她可以不用如大部分大學生般額外做兼職賺錢. " From Google Translate: "Lydia Mak, a second-year student studying International Research (Physics) at HKUST, is a member of the Hong Kong women’s football team. She said that she plans to pay for her own living expenses after entering university, but she cannot relax in the training of the Hong Kong team, usually after school from Monday to Friday. She has to participate in football training, and she has to do homework on Saturdays and Sundays. Only Saturday mornings can be used as tutoring. After receiving the scholarship, she does not need to work an extra part-time job to make money like most college students." </li> <li> The article notes: "現在讀理學院國際科研（物理）二年級升三年級的麥可兒，是香港女子足球隊隊員以及科大女足隊隊長，她認為科大每年為她提供生活費讓她可專注於足球和學業. 她下學年希望到荷蘭作交換生，除體驗歐洲科研文化，亦因為荷蘭女足世界杯中奪亞，期望可參與當地球會訓練. " From Google Translate: "Lydia, who is currently in her second year of international research (physics) in the Faculty of Science, is a member of the Hong Kong women's football team and the captain of the HKUST women's football team. She believes that HKUST provides her with living expenses every year so that she can focus on football and studies. She hopes to be an exchange student in the Netherlands next school year. In addition to experiencing European scientific research culture, she also hopes to participate in local football club training because the Netherlands won second place in the Women's World Cup." </li> <li> The article notes: "該校理學院國際科學研究二年級生麥可兒，當年DSE成績達7科5**，及身為香港女子足球隊代表，因而獲頒入學及運動獎學金. 她現時也有參加3隊足球隊，每天放學也要練習，難以抽空做兼職賺錢. "  From Google Translate: " </li> <li> The article notes: "國際科研(物理)二年級生麥可兒是女足港隊代表，當年考獲7科5**. 平日訓練頻繁，加上兼顧學業，每天日不暇給. 她認為，獎學金幫助甚大，令她不用擔心自己生活費. 她十分歡迎SAAS，認為彈性安排能方便他們平衡各方面，「屆時會有體育部人員幫助我們協調、編排時間表. 」她打算未來到歐洲交流，參加研究和足球訓練. " From Google Translate: "Lydia Mak, a second-year student in International Research (Physics), is the representative of the Hong Kong Women’s Football Team and got 5** in 7 subjects that year. Training is frequent on weekdays, plus taking care of studies, there is no time to spare every day. She believes that the scholarship is of great help and allows her to not worry about her living expenses. She very much welcomes SAAS and believes that the flexible arrangement can make it easier for them to balance various aspects. "There will be staff from the sports department to help us coordinate and arrange the schedule." She plans to go to Europe for exchanges in the future to participate in research and football training." </li> <li> The article notes: "去季還只是後備的麥可兒、成慧芝等球員，今季已開始在隊中佔一席位，麥可兒更入選了大港腳，至於中場有劉潤兒擔綱，" From Google Translate: "Players such as Lydia and Cheng Huizhi, who were only reserve players last season, have begun to occupy a seat in the team this season. Lydia was even selected for the D Hong Kong Football Team." </li> <li> This source should not be used to establish notability. I am listing it here because the second page of the document verifies that Mak Ho Yi Lydia's Chinese name is "麥可兒". </li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Lydia Mak to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 10:54, 7 November 2023 (UTC) </li></ul>


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