Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lyndon Lawless


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 18:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Lyndon Lawless

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High school band director, fails WP:BIO, not notable Downwoody (talk) 20:10, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems like an obvious delete for lack of notability.JoelWhy (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable. Fails WP: CREATIVE. C h r o m a Nebula   (talk)   21:25, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and User:ChromaNebula. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 22:20, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: He is just a normal guy that works for a high school. Non-notable. SL93 (talk) 00:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Changed to Keep: He is not just a normal guy that works for a high school. SL93 (talk) 20:33, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  — Frankie (talk) 15:41, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — Frankie (talk) 15:41, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment This article was created in 2005, about the same time as Youth Performing Arts School (when he was still the orchestra director there), hence the references to him as "Mr. Lawless" in early versions the article and the emphasis on him teaching high school. Actually, that was his second career. His real claim to notability is as the founder and director of Ars Musica, a fairly prominent baroque music ensemble in the 1970s and 1980s and one of the pioneers in the early music movement.  It toured nationally and was reviewed in the Philadelphia Inquirer, Chicago Tribune, New York Times, etc.  The ensemble made two recordings, Bach's Brandenburg Concertos 4 and 5,  and Excerpts from Handel's Messiah  which were reviewed in several specialist publications, e.g.  , , . Food for thought? Voceditenore (talk) 09:33, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Director of ars musica is notable. The high school material, though relevant content,  is of course not enough to keep the article.  DGG ( talk ) 01:57, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Relisting comment: I'm going to relist this; by the numbers, more editors favor deletion, but subsequent information would seem to point the other way. Could I ask the Delete editors above to review the sources provided by Voceditenore and advise?


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 20:14, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep per his work with Ars Musica, which has enough hits in Google news to convince me of its significance. The referencing of this article is in serious need of improvement but that's not a good reason for deletion. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:47, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per my original comment. Also agree with David Eppstein, article needs considerable work re referencing and encyclopedic tone, but not a reason to delete. Voceditenore (talk) 05:46, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep for work in Ars Musica which was rather well known at one time. Rewriting the lede to emphasize this now. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 15:47, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
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