Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mārtiņš Krūmiņš


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 15:45, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Mārtiņš Krūmiņš

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I couldn't find the significant coverage to show he meets WP:NARTIST or WP:GNG. No suitable WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 07:04, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:09, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Latvia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:09, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:01, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete I could not find WP:SIGCOV in an independent search. The article is built upon a single very short source, so I am not sure where the rest of the material came from. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 12:41, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Here we find: "Born in Riga, Latvia in 1900, impressionist painter Martins Krumins was influenced by Russian emigre painter Sergei Vinogradovs and studied in his studio from 1929 to 1935. In 1935, he enrolled in the Latvian Academy of Art under the tutelage of Vilhelms Purvitis.  Krumins taught painting at the Latvian University Extension in Augsburg, Germany.  In 1950 the artist immigrated to the United States and settled in New Jersey. Krumins had several individual exhibitions throughout the United States, Canada, Sweden, France, the Netherlands and Latvia, and participated in many group shows as well.  His works can be found in private and public collections."  Bus stop (talk) 13:29, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You left out the first part of that biography, which is actually past of a listing for selling a painting: "Krumins, Martin / American (1900-1992) / Haystacks/ Oil on Canvas 9 1/2" x 7 1/2" / $975." ThatMontrealIP (talk) 13:53, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * We have articles on graffiti artists. Bus stop (talk) 14:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * yeah but they typically have those "reliable source" thingmajigs, which are missing hereThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:11, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * But problematically they are classified as "artists" and "art". Now don't get me wrong—they are almost, but not quite—"artists" and "art" (in most, I'm sure not all, cases). Bus stop (talk) 17:40, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not seeing the point of what you are saying about graffiti. The quoted text you give above is not reliable; it's from a commercial gallery (wiscassetbaygallery.com), which is pretty much free to invent the facts as they please.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:59, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per Bus stop. Although a morecites tag is justified the artist is notable and has an interesting and culturally important backstory. With this additional source a deletion seems a step too far. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:49, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 04:58, 12 September 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ‑Scottywong | [express] ||  03:58, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


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