Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/M. P. Birla Institute of Fundamental Research


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Not quite a "keep" consensus, as many opinions are just bare assertions of notability with no or little argument.  Sandstein  05:24, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

M. P. Birla Institute of Fundamental Research

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No evident notability or credible claim thereof and (of course) there's no external sourcing. There are a vast number of "Institutes" on WP already and far too many of them are bogus articles on bogus organisations with no credible sources to back them up. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:44, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


 * If it is linked, as the article claims, to a major university, which Bangalore is, then it could well be notable. I suggest we wait as an editor appears to be working on it. -- Bduke   (Discussion)  01:34, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 04:09, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep: The institute quiet dully notable. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 09:57, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not a question of how dull the institute is, but whether theses claims are WP:Verifiable by independent sources. I can claim that my garden shed is an accredited partner institute of MIT (and many, many Indian academic articles claim similar things), but that doesn't mean that it's true, unless we can find another reliable source to confirm it. If we can't confirm these things, we shouldn't state them here. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep: Birlas are a well known industrialist family in India and this is one of their philanthropic activities - there are refs available from Google News, its only a question of using them. Around The Globe  सत्यमेव जयते 07:47, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete there are lots of hits in google news, but all of them seem to be recycled press releases and interviews, no in depth coverage. Merge to host institution also a possibility. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:26, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Note that sources have been found and incorporated into the article. See below and the article. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:27, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:28, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep It is a notable institute.Shyamsunder (talk) 07:34, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Would you care to suggest sources that might support this assertion? Stuartyeates (talk) 09:59, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - This is certainly not a "bogus" organization; the institute has been involved in a joint project with NASA. The topic is meeting WP:GNG with significant coverage about the institute itself, its programs and courses. There are likely more news sources available on Indian news websites.
 * — Northamerica1000(talk) 07:01, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * — Northamerica1000(talk) 07:01, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * — Northamerica1000(talk) 07:01, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - The article has been expanded as of this post, and sources have been incorporated into it. Northamerica1000(talk) 08:09, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Refs 2 and 3 are passing mentions. Ref 4 is a tourist guidebook entry to an entity these people do research with (but notability isn't inherited). Stuartyeates (talk) 21:01, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak keep It is good that some 3rd party sources have now been found for this article. However... NASA describe Radio Jove as being for "students and amateur scientists", as is also said in the final line of The Telegraph article, so the extent to which this can be described as a joint project is questionable. And the other article is effectively a press notice for an evening class. But they are possibly just enough. AllyD (talk) 20:57, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
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