Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/M. Pat Korb


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The result was   delete. Tone 10:53, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

M. Pat Korb

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Non-notable therapist and author. This article has been here for years and was nothing more than a stub till she died, the article is now being edited by someone with the same last name. Even still, I would have considered this a non-notable person, and would have nominated it for deletion even prior to the expansion that has been going on. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 20:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. This reference in The Gainesville Sun is enough to pass the general notability guideline. -- Eastmain (talk) 21:00, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * When did a single piece in a newspaper become an immediate pass to notability? Niteshift36 (talk) 14:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, she existed. And? She created a non-notable therapy center.  How does that make her notable? Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I did not originate this article, but finding that it contained inaccurate and incomplete information (as well as gross typos) have made significant revisions since her death. These continue. Scholarly publications have been noted. Gestalt Therapy: Practice and Theory has been called “the most widely used introductory text in the world-wide Gestalt community in both academic settings and in training institutes” [Wysong, The Gestalt Journal Press]. Professional associations have been noted (Jourard et al) and continue. Academic and professional data are from the subject’s CV. These can all be documented. The fact that I am the subject’s son and colleague may propose a valid conflict of interest: I never claimed the subject was “notable” according to your criteria, since I had nothing to do with its placement here. My only interest has been accuracy and completeness, which I assume you place as much a value on as elementary writing skills? If this is an inappropriate entry, according to your standards, it will be placed elsewhere. I think you should get a life, or go back to school. No further comments will be read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.69.226 (talk) 00:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge with Gestalt therapy - not notable enough for a page (more like WP:BLP1E), better to keep the data in one place.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:49, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete the article seems a copy of an obituary: "She died August 20, 2009, after a brief battle with pancreatic cancer." "worked with Sidney M. Jourard until his untimely death in 1974." ,"Known to her friends and colleagues as “Pat”," are diagnostic of such an origin.  Director of one of about 20 local US institutes. The local newspaper story is exactly the sort of article that is not a reliable source for notability.  The primary indication of notability is one book and two journal articles. It is possible that the book is a widely used textbook, in which case she might qualify under WP:PROF, if this could be shown. The book did have 2 eds. and is in about 300 WorldCat libraries -- But the authors are listed as "Vernon Van De Riet; Margaret P Korb; John Jeffrey Gorrell", so she is not necessarily the principal author. None of the 3 ever published much besides that book, so i can not tell who is likely to have been.   A review was mentioned above, but I do not know where it may have been published.   In any case, not notable enough to merge with Gestalt therapy--that would be the worst way of handling it, unless we intend to list everyone there who ever helped write a book about it--nowhere near as notable as other people listed in that article, & her book is not included in the long list of books given there as supplemental reading.   If kept, rewrite free of the obvious copypaste.    DGG ( talk ) 05:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- Cyber cobra  (talk) 03:31, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Article title is a poor search term.  Using Margaret P Kob, there are a decent number of Gbooks hits   as well as some citations of her work.  Edward321 (talk) 02:53, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails notability as an author and as a therapist. Probably a nice woman, but being nice doesn't make you notable. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, per DGG and noting that dozens of articles/books on Gestalt therapy have higher citation numbers in Google Scholar than hers. See this Gestalt therapy search. Abductive  (reasoning) 06:21, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
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