Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/M13 motorway (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to A13 road (England). Jenks24 (talk) 13:21, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

M13 motorway
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  Cliff  Smith 18:38, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  Cliff  Smith 18:39, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  Cliff  Smith 18:39, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I was trying to find a more substantial reference for this, and came up with National Archives File AT 56/98. In this file, the sole mention of "M13" is on a draft map, and even then it's marked as not necessarily being the final number. I cannot find any other references to this motorway number anywhere in the Ministry of Transport's archive files, and while it's an interesting tidbit to mention on CBRD and Pathetic Motorways, there simply aren't enough reliable sources to make this stand as an article. Ritchie333  (talk)  11:46, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment If we wanted to preserve the content, a merge with A13 road (England) is a possibility, since the M13 proposal followed the same route as well as sharing a number. It could also be combined with coverage of the planned Maplin Airport, but that only has a section in Thames Estuary Airport, so it would unbalance that article. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * An article on Maplin Airport would certainly be more appropriate. -- Ritchie333  (talk)  15:39, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - proposed Interestate/Motorway-grade highways are almost always notable; upon creation of Maplin Airport can be redirected there. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:33, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge a brief sumary to A13 road (England). The motorway proposal was no doubt succeeded by the upgrading of A13.  There is a very good reason neither to have this article nor one of Maplin Airport: they were both proposals which were abandoned many years ago and have no chance of being revived.  If we created Maplin Airport, it would probably merely as a redirect to Thames Estuary Airport, which would result in a double redirect.  The motorway proposal was no doubt subsidiary to the airport one, and does not warrant the existence of an article.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:22, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the road and airport were cancelled a long time ago, but notability is not temporary. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:34, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to A13 road (England) - This was a proposed related upgrade.  Dough 48  72  14:40, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.