Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MC Primo (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that there is not enough coverage in reliable sources to support notability. Sarahj2107 (talk) 06:23, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

MC Primo
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There were simultaneous AfD in September 2017 and it was deleted from Wikipedia in Portuguese, but it was kept here per lack of consensus. In fact there were very few participants here discussing the notability. Now there's another AfD in Portuguese because the article was recreated, but the article is basically the same (there are some new sources that don't mention the subject, i. e. original research). The reasons for deletion are essentially the same: As a musician he does not meet WP:MUSICBIO and the rest is essentiallly run-of-the-mill news because his death received very little coverage from the media. Bolhones (talk) 19:02, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions. Bolhones (talk) 19:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bolhones (talk) 19:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bolhones (talk) 19:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep has coverage in reliable sources such as here and also released his music betwwen 2005 and 2012 on a major Brazilian label Som Livre. Atlantic306 (talk) 22:10, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I know there are sources, but most of them are regional. In portuguese it was deleted because it was only some trivial news about his death. BTW do you understand what do the sources say about him? Anyway, there are no sources about the label (the website of Som Livre does not confirm that information) and only because he released music on a label it does not mean that he was going to be a successful artist. Compared to other artists he was basically a regional singer that received little coverage because of his death. Bolhones (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That source is not about him, but merely mentions his name a couple of times in the process of being fundamentally about something else. So it's not a source that contributes anything toward establishing his notability. Bearcat (talk) 19:20, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. When it comes to his musical career two of the three sources for that are unreliable and the third is just a glancing namecheck of his existence in coverage of something other than him, which means none of those sources count as notability-supporting ones for the purposes of getting him over WP:NMUSIC — and running as a city council candidate but not winning does not get him over WP:NPOL. There may be a valid notability claim if somebody can properly reference an article about his musical career to something more than just blogs and glancing namechecks in coverage of other things, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have the correct type and volume and depth of coverage that it would take to pass WP:GNG. Bearcat (talk) 19:26, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep The article is well referenced and in a great state of content I would like to say what is the interest of the Bolhones (talk) to put the article for exclusion –Leonardo.G G (talk) 00:37, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to answer the WP:ADHOM argument. According to you "The article is well referenced", but it seems to me that the article has some parts where there are WP:OR and WP:MASK. For instance, according to the article:
 * "He started his career at age 18 with the hit Diretoria (2005), he released his first 20-year album, where he sold more than 120,000 copies." The source does not mention anything about that.
 * "And it remained in the stops of success and like recognition of all his work was invited and was present in several television programs between them "Cauldron of the Huck", "Central of the Periphery" in the Globe Network and "Show of Tom" by RecordTV." According to the source Jadielson da Silva Almeida, MC Primo, was killed with five shots in front of his wife and two kids while he was at home, in Baixada Santista. Bolhones (talk) 02:31, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * No, the article is not well-referenced. Of the four footnotes here, the ones that are about him are unreliable sources that cannot support notability, and the ones that are reliable sources that can support notability are not about him. Bearcat (talk) 16:26, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 07:03, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fail in WP:MUSICBIO. He was a singer of "Funk ostentação" an ephemeral genre of regional recognition. It only became notorious for his death, that characterizes WP: BLP1E.Guilherme Burn (talk) 13:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment It was deleted once again from Wikipedia in Portuguese. Bolhones (talk) 02:03, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kirbanzo (talk) 18:10, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm not seeing the sourcing present to meet the WP:GNG. I don't know Portugese, so I'd have a hard time navigating those, but if the Portugese Wikipedia article was deleted, that's probably not a good sign for those sources either, especially considering the English Wikipedia has historically been known as the more strict of the various projects when it comes to notability and reliable source enforcement. Sergecross73   msg me  17:57, 9 May 2018 (UTC)


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