Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MIX (Email)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator; no one else recommended deletion WP:SK — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  01:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

MIX (Email)

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Sources do not meet WP:RS, causing this article to fail notability guidelines. The sources are press releases... and copies of emails... Oliver  Twisted (Talk) (Stuff) 08:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I can reference official documentation for the format. I would encourage comparison to other pages in the same category, such as maildir and mbox. Jonabbey (talk) 08:28, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Any additional sources should be included when possible. Pointing out other articles that do not have reliable sources is helpful, in that we can address those issues, however please use WP:RS when evaluating sources which would be appropriate to use to meet notability guidelines on this article. -- Oliver  Twisted (Talk) (Stuff) 08:35, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll find that there are plenty of reliable independent sources available for both mbox and maildir, both on the WWW and in print. &#9786;  Their mention here is a complete red herring. Uncle G (talk) 14:28, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm pursuing WP:RS for this. Jonabbey (talk) 08:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I found an extensive discussion of the performance of UW IMAP with the MIX format, but unfortunately it is in a German Linux magazine. I have linked to a Google translated version in the External Links section. Jonabbey (talk) 09:34, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Or, at least keep for now. This was AfD'ed before there was any discussion about how to improve it.  As per WP:BEFORE, "If the article can be fixed through normal editing, then it is not a good candidate for AfD." and "When nominating an article for deletion due to sourcing concerns, make a good-faith attempt to confirm that such sources aren't likely to exist."  A google search indicates to me that more reliable sources can probably be found. If nothing can be found after some time has passed, *THEN* an AfD is appropriate. Wrs1864 (talk) 13:37, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your input regarding the topic, and as a glance at the article talk page will reveal, I have been attempting "normal editing" to improve the article. Since the article author can only seem to find a German blog and copies of emails on a server, I don't believe I listed the article incorrectly. Subsequent improvements actually make me happy. -- Oliver  Twisted (Talk) (Stuff) 13:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As far as I'm concerned, this article had enough reliable sources before you put the AfD up, it has more now. Be aware that for computer stuff like email technology, there often is very little dead-tree sources.  Mark Crispin is a recognized expert in the field of email and email formats, as such, as per WP:SPS, his mailing lists posts can qualify as reliable sources.  (I certainly count them, although I can understand others not liking them.)  The UW IMAP server is a notable implementation, its documentation counts.  While it would be better to have English references, they are not required, so the German language one counts.   Your very terse comment on the talk page didn't seem to me to be trying to improve the article.  Again, a quick google search should have told you that this article needs an  tag, not an AfD.  Wrs1864 (talk) 14:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Withdraw nomination. Reliable sources for software notability apparently include copies of emails now. Who knew? -- Oliver  Twisted (Talk) (Stuff) 14:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


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